Hearing a $5 tier on planetscale was cool and I was thinking about using it for a future project, but those specs are just way too low to be worth it for $5/mo. I think I will just get a $5/mo vps with 32x the CPU (probably more as this is 2 x86 cpu cores vs 1/16 arm) and 8x the ram for the same price. The stats, insights and dashboards are cool, but for hobbyist projects that's too steep for the specs you get in my opinion.
7moritz7 83 days ago [-]
5 bucks gets you 8gb ram 4 vcpu 75gb nvme at contabo actually
i know this is apples and oranges but that's 16 times the ram
znpy 83 days ago [-]
you get all of those resources execpt what you need: a managed postgresql.
the difference in price is really the value added by having someone else managing postgresql for you.
_zoltan_ 82 days ago [-]
what is there to manage on a single instance, single VM...
saxenaabhi 82 days ago [-]
pitr, setting up a replica, observability, performance reports etc
matt-p 83 days ago [-]
I think in fairness it's an apples to oranges comparison.
How long will it take you to setup postgres on a VM and sort out and pay for somewhere to put backups? Let's say only a hour, and your time is worth say $30/hour you've just spent 6 months of planetscale fees and you've still got to pay your VPS and backup provider.
8n4vidtmkvmk 82 days ago [-]
That's one way to look at it. I personally think it's worth burning a few hours to learn how to do something yourself even if you don't immediately get value out of it.
matt-p 81 days ago [-]
I already know how to do it, I just don't see the value in it.
threatofrain 83 days ago [-]
If you want apples to apples then Planetscale is compared to the ergonomics, pricing, and performance of the bests. If you want to compare you don’t analyze things in isolation by looking at your own expenses.
Have we forgotten they promised free forever then flipped? I’ll pass on this, thanks.
ksec 82 days ago [-]
Thanks to 20 years of Google, we now have people believing something could really be free forever.
I guess it is also worth changing marketing tactics for new demographics.
deaux 83 days ago [-]
But but the CEO was completely unaware of this until someone pointed it out to him recently! And they never could've predicted the free tier would be "unsustainable" after spending huge on "indie hacker influencer" marketing squarely aimed at exactly the type of dev to use only a free tier! These are some very hard calculations and unforeseen circumstances, please understand.
Wow what a rude behaviour. And yes he is the CEO according to his HN profile.
didgeoridoo 83 days ago [-]
laughs bitterly in Heroku
0xCAP 83 days ago [-]
Sometimes nothing is better than something. $5 for 512mb of RAM is something I regret witnessing.
matt-p 83 days ago [-]
1/16 of a CPU is admittedly more terrifying, I remember wayyy back in the days of shared hosting we didn't give less than 1/5th a CPU, we had all sorts of issues at absolutely anything higher than that.
dzonga 82 days ago [-]
is hosting a db really that difficult ? been doing that since college
put that on a hertzner, do, lightsail server etc n you have 16x of the compute at the same price n 8x the memory.
pgdumball etc, mysql is even easier but I don't use it.
nicolaslem 82 days ago [-]
Just yesterday I turned off the server for a pet project I had. Postgres had been running unattended for 7 years on Linode. pgdumpall to Backblaze B2 on a nightly crontab, that is it.
normie3000 83 days ago [-]
What is planetscale? A postgres PaaS?
7moritz7 83 days ago [-]
They got big with mysql with optimizations (maybe mariadb?). neon would be postgres aas
fastball 83 days ago [-]
Vitess (sharded MySQL) is how they became relevant. But broadly they've spent a lot of time making a great DaaS. There plan is to do the same with Postgres.
cloudflare728 83 days ago [-]
Can someone explain to me the neon pricing?
5 minutes of inactivity makes it idle.
If I get one query every 5 minutes and each query takes 100ms for whole month, do I get changed for 720 hours or for 14 minutes (total compute time)?
cloudflare728 79 days ago [-]
update:
It's 720 hours of compute cost. Not really serverless. It's just managed database service and it can scale to zero. That's it.
DeathArrow 83 days ago [-]
What are the limitations of the $5 Postgres instances?
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i know this is apples and oranges but that's 16 times the ram
the difference in price is really the value added by having someone else managing postgresql for you.
How long will it take you to setup postgres on a VM and sort out and pay for somewhere to put backups? Let's say only a hour, and your time is worth say $30/hour you've just spent 6 months of planetscale fees and you've still got to pay your VPS and backup provider.
I guess it is also worth changing marketing tactics for new demographics.
put that on a hertzner, do, lightsail server etc n you have 16x of the compute at the same price n 8x the memory.
pgdumball etc, mysql is even easier but I don't use it.
5 minutes of inactivity makes it idle.
If I get one query every 5 minutes and each query takes 100ms for whole month, do I get changed for 720 hours or for 14 minutes (total compute time)?