There have been seven Asian elephants born at the St Louis Zoo since 1992.
uxhacker 2 hours ago [-]
So there are now 55000 and 1 Asian elephants*. I don’t understand the newsworthiness of having an extra Asian elephant joining the other 15000 Asian elephants in captivity.
Wild Asian elephants roam between 100km2 to 1500km2. This elephant will spend a life confined to just how many square km’s?
assaddayinh 2 hours ago [-]
The conquest for utopian perfection is the enemy of all good things. In the wild she would be poached, hunted and ground dow into medieval medicine, while contained to ever more little islands of wild.
Please god free us from those who want to burn the bakery, because they think tomorrow it will rain manna from the heavens. No curse us greater then a rampant idealist, unwilling to sense reality.
PS: Why not have pragmatic solutions where there are elephant days where the herd to roam in a park?
riedel 1 hours ago [-]
While I totally agree, the underlying conflict is that Zoos over use the argument of preservation these days. On the other end they certainly have the need to stay entertainment venues, a conflict which they seldomly address.
Recently there was a obviously necessary mass culling of baboons in the Nuremberg zoo which shows some of the controversy [1]
They could have hunting preserves, basically areas sharedby predators and prey similar to nature as enrichment, but that would be cruelty for the cityZens.
Im argueing against nature preserves in poorer countries, where western nations deluded citizens pay to keep a piece of nature which are basically mirages of "intactness" in economic good times, vanishing from the earth entirely in economic bad times. Which the very same proponents usually argue for with degrowth arguments.
uxhacker 37 minutes ago [-]
So it will cost at least 100,000 usd to keep this poor elephant confined in a zoo in the US versus about 15,000 in a wild sanctuary in Thailand.
In the wild sanctuary it will have space to roam.
fuzzythinker 3 hours ago [-]
Direct source with better readability and many pictures:
Wild Asian elephants roam between 100km2 to 1500km2. This elephant will spend a life confined to just how many square km’s?
Please god free us from those who want to burn the bakery, because they think tomorrow it will rain manna from the heavens. No curse us greater then a rampant idealist, unwilling to sense reality.
PS: Why not have pragmatic solutions where there are elephant days where the herd to roam in a park?
Recently there was a obviously necessary mass culling of baboons in the Nuremberg zoo which shows some of the controversy [1]
[1] https://www.greenmemag.com/animals/the-nuremberg-zoo-controv...
Im argueing against nature preserves in poorer countries, where western nations deluded citizens pay to keep a piece of nature which are basically mirages of "intactness" in economic good times, vanishing from the earth entirely in economic bad times. Which the very same proponents usually argue for with degrowth arguments.
In the wild sanctuary it will have space to roam.
https://nationalzoo.si.edu/news/female-asian-elephant-calf-b...
And even more pictures and info on Asian elephants:
https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/news/get-know-herd-asian-...
I'm happy for them that there is now a calf after a long time, but this sentence doesn't read as hopeful as the author probably intended