We had a mandatory ChatGPT training course at work. You had to sign up in limited space classes. This is a large company, needless to say it was chaos to get a significant number of people to participate.
I got a spot. We were shown how to copy and paste data from excel and other data sources into the chat interface. We had sample data to work with, there was always someone in class who would say "mine didn't work." The developers in the room asked about codex, the instructor said she wasn't a developer.
We did get a certificate though. There was nothing they could teach that you couldn't learn by using the free version in your own time. Whatever they are doing with the Maltese government is just to increase the monthly active user count.
rukshn 22 hours ago [-]
I’m now responsible for improving AI literacy in the organization I work.
But the people in charge just want the employees to just answer some questions so they can handover Claude or Chat GPT licenses so they can show people are using AI to improve productivity.
There are people who don’t know when to use AI and when not to use Ai and think they can just Claude their way through everything. I wanted to change that but when the whole idea is to just increase AI use I guess they don’t care about how AI is used.
smeggysmeg 17 hours ago [-]
The leaders who mandate AI have no understanding on how to actually use it for productivity. They use it like a Magic 8-Ball to confirm whatever ignorance they have and believe the hype that it can do anything.
SoftTalker 10 hours ago [-]
They have always done this. These are the same managers who ask subordinates for reports that support their predetermined agendas, or higher level execs who hire consultants for the same purpose.
ffsm8 21 hours ago [-]
I was on a quarter demo the other day and the project lead for ai innovation was talking about the things he's preparing for the company.
I will not address the things he pitched (as coming soon), as I'm a developer and (hopefully) not the target audience, but I was quiet surprised when they made a questioneer asking how many people use ai and how frequently. (The target demographic was middle management, product owners etc)
75% of people answering said they're using it daily and considered it an essential tool they need to work
Considering it was anonymous I was expecting lower numbers, honestly.
overfeed 19 hours ago [-]
> Considering it was anonymous
In the recent past, my department received an email from on high with a list of people who were yet to complete the "anonymous" survey.
I always assume my work-survey answers are traceable back to me, whether it's via self-doxxing with my answers, tracing links of the rootkit-level MDM software that can record my screen, but they pinky-promise to only use for remote assistance, in case I open a ticket with IT.
andy99 7 hours ago [-]
Talked to someone at a large company who had admin access to survey results (require to do some analytics). The survey was “anonymous” but results were geo-located, and had some information about the team they came from, which in many cases was enough to clearly identify people. There is a difference between “doesn’t have a persons name on it” anonymous and actually anonymized in a way hardened against figuring out who is who. I don’t think anyone really does the latter.
jpc0 19 hours ago [-]
You do know it is possible for the answers to be anonymous but who submitted to be tracked?
iinnPP 18 hours ago [-]
Depends on how it's done.
Trusting that process to be done well is probably not the greatest plan.
HumblyTossed 17 hours ago [-]
I have taken some really badly (on purpose?) written questionnaires in the past. Asking about team size, role, etc.
That’s not anonymous at that point. That’s an agenda.
overfeed 8 hours ago [-]
I've seen questions asking for my org, team size, role, and when I joined, and thought it would have saved me time had they asked for my employee number instead.
DrewADesign 17 hours ago [-]
You do know it’s possible for insecure leaders to lie about things like that, and that there’s no possible way to definitively tell beforehand?
close04 17 hours ago [-]
Most external survey providers claimed anonymity but in their T&Cs stated in a very roundabout way that they could provide some information to customers for quality purposes or something. Read “we’ll deanonymize some users if the paying customer wants it”. Internal survey tools are subject to internal management pressure.
Even when you use a tool like Microsoft Forms, where MS really can’t be bothered to deanonimize users unless 3 letter agencies get involved, it’s still possible to do timestamp matching between the proxy/VPN logs and the submission time.
Asume real anonymity only if the URL is the same for everyone and you can fill the survey from any computer on the internet.
But the explanation for why people overhype AI usage is probably simpler. They want to keep their license because it’s a nice perk. They’ll use it to get the gist of a long email thread without bothering the read the details, to get some meeting minutes without validating if that was actually what was said, to generate some crappy modern equivalent of wordart graphics for their presentations, and feel like the time saved to generate what most time is slop was worth it.
When I worked on this (outside of coding) it was a pain to find a use case that really benefited. These were all niche uses that fit an LLM like a glove. These rest was slop, I could see the usage reports, and the BS self reporting surveys. Everyone inflated the numbers and usage to justify keeping their license.
Survey8430 18 hours ago [-]
This guy is wrong.
hennell 16 hours ago [-]
It's perfectly possible. Two tables, one stores answer responses only, the other just marks off who has responded. No link between them and you have anonymous data but can tell who hasn't responded.
Of course if you record created/updated timestamps on both, insert both records in the same order, accidently record the user code in the response data, take backups in between responses, have identifying questions or just don't have that many people responding it's easy/not hard to reverse engineer.
But it's quite possible to do right, I did it quite effectively almost by mistake years ago. Sent a customer survey out with generated codes as identifiers recorded with answers. Before sending reminder emails a script grabbed the codes, marked the customer as responded and wiped the code (so I could just get future responses where code was not null to mark next people off). Although I had timestamps the script meant customers were updated in blocks, there really wasn't any data to link them.
I know because the Boss was not happy he couldn't find out which customer had said what, and I had to point out all the communication (with customers and me) called it an anonymous survey, so why would I have saved them?
So it is possible, just not easy even if you intend it, and it's often not intentional...
I don't trust anonymous surveys either now...
Survey8430 14 hours ago [-]
The way I see it:
If the participant has to trust the survey creator, then it is not anonymous. The survey creator can link the data.
If the survey creator has to trust the participant, the survey is anonymous. The participant can lie in the survey, lie about participating, or submit the survey multiple times.
Your example was not anonymous. But you did not break the participant's trust, thank you! (Or maybe you are lying.)
Anonymous example:
Sending a clean link to people to take the survey.
If not enough answers have been received, a reminder can be sent to all, with a clause, that says: "if you have already done it, you can ignore the reminder."
HumblyTossed 17 hours ago [-]
The pressure to use AI is worse than the pressure kids get to use drugs. It’s insane.
The job market right now sucks so everyone is really just trying to not be the next cut.
ravenical 19 hours ago [-]
If it's 75% exactly, that's consistent with them asking four people
ffsm8 19 hours ago [-]
It wasn't, and it was visibly updating while people were submitting their answers. I just rounded it as I don't remember the exact number at the time they closed the submission.
Could still be faked ofc, but I don't think they did.
SlinkyOnStairs 18 hours ago [-]
> 75% of people answering said they're using it daily and considered it an essential tool they need to work
> (The target demographic was middle management, product owners etc)
This leaves a fairly wide set of options for what "essential" entails.
Do 75% of middle management and product owners actually need AI for their job? Seems unlikely.
Do 75% of middle management and product owners use AI to slop up emails, meeting "summaries", and reports? That's quite possible. Would they declare it to be an "essential tool"? One imagines they are not too fond of actually doing meaningful work.
It's quite easy to get high percentages like this when the AI is involved in make-work and the costs are low if not zero. The moment inference costs go up, most of this usage will evaporate.
kakacik 18 hours ago [-]
Never expect anonymous voting/quizz/whatever to be fully anonymous in big corporations, if its something about touchy topics and/or can affect employment/performance of given person results will be skewed. If metric becomes the target it ceases to be a good metric and all that.
It all rest on the shoulders of responsible manager(s) on how moral they are. Many are not.
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Tesl 14 hours ago [-]
Most of the answers to your post are reasons this 75% must be fake / lies or whatever.
But maybe the simplest answer is that most people do use the tools daily now and consider them essential...?
As much as HN would hate to think that
liveoneggs 16 hours ago [-]
Just have IT roll out OpenClaw to everyone, connect it up to their emails, chats, password managers, etc and then click "go".
Why not?
RobotToaster 16 hours ago [-]
Definitely start with the executives, you can't leave them out of such a useful tool. :)
somewhatgoated 14 hours ago [-]
Not that there would be any ill effects from this, executives sit mostly in meetings, they don’t really do anything much besides that; maybe occasionally write a short email.
They also don’t have access to critical systems.
It’s much more of an issue with devs
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throwaway894345 10 hours ago [-]
I agree with you, but also it’s not entirely unreasonable to just use AI (or any other tool) and let them figure out over time what are and aren’t good uses. This approach requires an ability to see past the next quarterly earnings report, which is a rare quality for a business, but it can be healthy. The long term result is likely to be a culture that is more AI literate than they would be if they had top down instruction. The optimal path is probably a bit of both, but if I had to pick a ditch it would be “trust my employees”.
The thing I have a real issue with, and which seems more common, is the belief that they can cut raises because AI will make them more productive. In that case, the best employees (read: those most capable of leveraging AI effectively) will leave to find better paying work and the remainder will be too busy with the additional workload to have time to figure out how to use AI to make themselves more efficient.
xyst 19 hours ago [-]
So my electricity bills are rising just so corporate idiots can increase an internal metric.
Fuck all of this.
Eddy_Viscosity2 16 hours ago [-]
Almost every bad thing happening in the world is so corporate idiots can increase some internal metric.
materialpoint 47 minutes ago [-]
A company could get more profits from formally teaching employees the function of the Fn key on their laptops.
It is staggering how most people, even among developers, don't know what it's for, and consequently, nearly everybody suffers from not being able to turn volume up or down, or accidentally disconnect from meetings by having turned on airplane mode.
vultour 14 hours ago [-]
I’ve never gone through a paid training course that wasn’t a complete waste of time. It’s at the point where people at work know there isn’t even a point in offering these to me. “But why don’t you take the Terraform training?” Because I’m not going to waste my time with a 3-day course where it takes the first day to install and configure Terraform. I can install it on my computer in 5 minutes. I think people usually see these as a paid vacation, but I find them so insufferably boring I’d rather just work.
bookofjoe 13 hours ago [-]
Yes! Forty years ago (c. 1985) members of our department of anesthesiology (University of Virginia Medical Center) were offered an optional two full day course on how to do our own MedLine searches so as not to have to put in a request to the biomedical librarian for same.
I jumped at the chance to not have to be in the OR from 7am-5pm doing the same old same old but instead relax and learn something useful.
Bad choice.
The instructor and material were deadeningly boring; I couldn't even begin to enter into the computer the right search request format and terms and as I sat there I was reminded of my days in elementary school watching the big round clock on the wall tick away the minutes until the final dismissal bell.
Because our chairman was in the class and had encouraged all of us tenure-track faculty to take the course, I couldn't bail after the first day but had to return for the second day.
Subsequently I continued using the biomedical librarian to request my searches (it took just a couple minutes to fill out the form) with excellent results.
MattDamonSpace 22 hours ago [-]
Half of people are below average, these classes raise the floor they don’t expand the ceiling
sethops1 14 hours ago [-]
Fun fact, studies show human performance follows a power distribution, not a normal curve, implying _most people are below average_.
Then they sound good, same as basic computer literacy classes!
rwmj 20 hours ago [-]
They lower the ceiling since now the other half have to deal with the AI slop.
realty_geek 19 hours ago [-]
My saddest interaction recently was with a friend with a 1st class degree in computing and several years experience in software engineering in many prestigious companies.
I asked if he had tried out Claude code or anything similar.
His answer: My company has scheduled a training course in that so I'll wait
:(
wartywhoa23 19 hours ago [-]
So sad indeed, a man is left out in the cold waiting for his turn to receive a stochastic-brain-implant-as-a-service.
rrr_oh_man 18 hours ago [-]
> in many prestigious companies
That's the hint. Most companies >50 employees suck.
surajrmal 14 hours ago [-]
Bold claim. I have the opposite experience. On this site I imagine most folks will agree with you, but there are a lot of folks who choose to work at larger companies over small ones.
calgoo 13 hours ago [-]
I have worked for enterprise companies all my life, they are all a horrible mess of people trying to play 4d chess to get a promotion and look good. They do offer better life / work balance, so if you are not a workaholic like the startup / SF crowd, then its actually a decent job. Just remember to enjoy the life outside the office, with people that are not from the office and you will be fine.
wise_young_man 18 hours ago [-]
It’s sad to you that they have a life outside of work?
shimman 14 hours ago [-]
It's the VC mind rot, the only thing that matters in life is working apparently. A sad existence indeed but you need a cohort to exploit if you're gonna make the next unicorn for cashing out.
westmeal 16 hours ago [-]
I don't get what's sad about that
dvfjsdhgfv 16 hours ago [-]
It's hard to detect sarcasm these days but in case you're being serious, not everybody will share your feelings.
3daH17 14 hours ago [-]
He is serious. He has an AI company with a vibe coded website.
All positive comments here come from the financially invested or the near-retirement people who need cognitive assistance and are willing to sell out future generations.
zer0tonin 8 hours ago [-]
This site really has become a parody of itself.
layer8 18 hours ago [-]
You are not providing any argument for why the course developed by the University of Malta should match your experience.
Tenoke 16 hours ago [-]
> We did get a certificate though.
As someone who never bothered to get any certificates (beyond a University degree) even when I'd do online courses (of which the most course-like must've been fast.ai), are these ever actually useful in any manner?
jellyfishbeaver 16 hours ago [-]
There are so many stupid "courses" and SaaS tools doing this I imagine that the value of the many of these certificates is close to 0.
Many of them you can simply take the exam over and over until you pass, and then stick a shiny stupid badge on your LinkedIn profile.
stingraycharles 16 hours ago [-]
They are useful for getting a job, that’s about it.
In our case, we get our entire team AWS solution architect certs as well just so we can always tell our customers that our whole team is certified (we do a lot of “forward deployed” stuff for enterprise customers).
benhurmarcel 12 hours ago [-]
In his case of a large company, I’d expect that completing the useless training is necessary to get access to the tool. That’s how it worked in mine.
bartread 19 hours ago [-]
> We were shown how to copy and paste data from excel and other data sources into the chat interface.
Grnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnguuurnnngh.
I remember the copy and paste drudgery from the early days of ChatGPT. It was a miserable and joyless experience. Nowadays (and for a long time) you can simply attach the file.
michaelbuckbee 16 hours ago [-]
This sounds an awful lot like the early how to get on to the internet highway classes that existed. I don't think the classes had a lot of worth in the strict educational sense of like "here's how you do X Y & Z" but... We're I think much more effective at saying, you know, "X Y & Z are now possible."
It does take time and a little skill to know the edges of the AI tools. What's reasonable? What's not? What's likely to hallucinate? You could get something in the rough bounds of trust.
I can see a class helping with that.
encrux 21 hours ago [-]
For everyone in the EU: Copying and pasting sensitive data (like customer data) into AI tools is a violation of the GDPR, and potentially the AI act, which will be enforced soon.
These violations come with hefty fines.
rvnx 21 hours ago [-]
I would be cautious to advocate these laws that strongly in the context of AI tools:
Companies and employees always make their decisions based on a risk/reward basis.
Sometimes a commercial contract (like Microsoft Copilot) is enough to cover your ass and to meet the needs of the regulator.
Even if the operator is exactly the same.
Laws are constraints to navigate, but if you are successful enough (ahem, rich) then they don’t apply to you.
At the moment what the EU wants is to make sure that in the long-term they can access your private information.
Realistically if you are in the EU you have more risks telling your darkest secrets to a EU-hosted model that the government will arrest you, than to a Chinese-model (who doesn’t collaborate).
EU Chat Control, is here to protect kids and protect you from terrorists; you don’t want to claim you support pedophiles right ?
So following these rules is always a matter of choice.
Respect and you will be stuck with your shitty Mistral and no privacy, not respect and you have your shiny Claude that you have to think what to input inside.
jstummbillig 20 hours ago [-]
What is it with this new one line paragraph style?
EDIT: Needless to say I loath it and I don't know why.
rvnx 20 hours ago [-]
I agree with you I could have made it more compact by making 1 point = 1 paragraph, sometimes it’s a bit difficult to cleanly articulate my ideas, and I try not to clean them up with GPT first in order to keep the original tone.
For the not liking it part, I guess that if someone writes a long text, there are more chances to find at least a point of disagreement than a very short sentence
Tenoke 16 hours ago [-]
It depends heavily on what type of data though. As far as I understand if you have no PII or anything close to it you are mostly safe - especially if it's customer data but aggregated.
realityking 21 hours ago [-]
You’re brushing too broad a stroke GDPR only affects personal information. There’s plenty of sensitive business information that is not covered by GDPR - for example per business customer revenue data - that is legal to put into an AI tool but your employer may not want you to.
layer8 18 hours ago [-]
> business customer revenue data
Usually this would require the respective customer to agree to sharing that data with a third party.
oliwarner 20 hours ago [-]
But the normalisation of copying and pasting internal data into external tools is a recipe for complete disaster.
I'd be surprised if there weren't already phishing attacks that work by pretending to be a LLM.
olalonde 19 hours ago [-]
You got a certificate though.
altmanaltman 23 hours ago [-]
The fact they have to resort to these tactics does not bide well for the company that wants to create AGI or go bust.
GCUMstlyHarmls 23 hours ago [-]
Oh I don't know, it seems like a good step forward towards regulatory capture. First partner, then certify, then require the certification. A limited regional beta, like launching your app in New Zealand first.
epolanski 19 hours ago [-]
Similar things happen in different non-tech companies I know.
But nobody uses LLMs that aren't Gemini or Copilot enterprise, as they are already on Google cloud or Microsoft offering already.
And there's high pressure on workers to find use cases where AI can boost productivity, with bonuses dangling on who finds real case scenarios.
I don't know about the results of these experiments, but I know unhappiness is widespread.
jpc0 19 hours ago [-]
My favorite right now.
"Make the AI do xyz"
That clearly needs a custom harness to integrate with ORG tooling.
"No we won't pay for token usage, make it work with the subscription were already paying for"...
Guess you don't want AI then...
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pembrook 23 hours ago [-]
You do understand if every person in Malta were to use chatgpt regularly it wouldn’t even show up as a blip on their MAU chart
Cue up the next cynical bad take.
darkwater 20 hours ago [-]
But if you can prove any kind of success with Malta then you can go to the next 10 "slightly bigger" nations out there and tell them "See? It worked very well with Malta". And then move to a bigger layer, and a bigger layer...
rvnx 20 hours ago [-]
In practice since this is valid for a year it is essentially a free-trial they are giving away and they hope that it may generate additional revenue at some point after that
ergocoder 11 hours ago [-]
> There was nothing they could teach that you couldn't learn by using the free version in your own time.
That's true for almost everything in life.
> Whatever they are doing with the Maltese government is just to increase the monthly active user count.
That's one of their main goals. Another main goal is to also make money. There are a few other main goals.
What do you mean by "just to increase"? Did they try to hide their goal? Was it a secret agenda nobody knows about?
These are some strange tautological comments.
KnuthIsGod 1 days ago [-]
Malta is an important component of Russia's money laundering Laundromat system.
"Malta’s corruption is not just in the heart of government, it’s the entire body"
This article gives a distorted view of my country. We have a largely normal government with normal levels of corruption. You can compare Malta to a municipality in a big country. I have lived in many north western European countries and at the municipal level I personally witnessed the same levels of corruption, that in my native Malta would be considered the biggest scandal of the year. It's all a matter of framing, propaganda and geopolitics.
AlecSchueler 17 hours ago [-]
> in many north western European countries and at the municipal level I personally witnessed the same levels of corruption, that in my native Malta would be considered the biggest scandal of the year.
Could you give examples of a few of these to illustrate the kind of thing we're talking about? It currently feels a bit hand wavy from both sides.
maltesegirl 16 hours ago [-]
Most corruption that I have been witness to, both in Malta and abroad falls into two categories: nepotism and procurement/tenders. Both of these are extremely common to the point that most don't even consider them corruption. For context, I work in academia, so I am sort of by proxy employed with local/federal governments and am therefore privy to how procurement deals are made. There is nothing that happens in Malta that doesn't also happen in Germany or in any other country I have worked in. If anything in Malta someone is always going to cry foul, whereas if you're witnessing corruption at the municipal or state level in Germany, it mostly flies under the radar.
sevg 16 hours ago [-]
Yeah, just casually murdering journalists is totally normal.
Your username and comment history suggests it might not be wise to take your word as objective truth.
maltesegirl 15 hours ago [-]
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saagarjha 14 hours ago [-]
I am sympathetic to your desire to defend your country, which has many good things about it as well I am sure. But using Hacker News for solely this purpose is against the rules, so don't do that.
sevg 15 hours ago [-]
Try harder, sock puppet account :)
zwaps 17 hours ago [-]
Well the business model of Malta is being a tax evasion haven and access port for oligarchs.
That’s quite a difference to most other European countries, although not all.
michelb 15 hours ago [-]
It's also the ideal country to have your gambling company incorporated.
maltesegirl 16 hours ago [-]
?? London, Paris, Berlin ??
That’s quite a difference to most other European countries
The difference being that you personally are not prejudiced against them for no other reason than your ignorance and arrogance.
9dev 15 hours ago [-]
Respectfully, in the best case you don't really know what you are talking about. These three cities certainly cannot be categorised as tax havens in any sense of the word, and the local legislation is objectively different - as evident to anyone comparing it.
You didn’t even mention the Knights of Malta yet. They claim to care for the poor, but Prince Bernhard also within a year of signing up ordered naked girls for an evening which caused his secretary, J. Thomassen, in march 1950 to quit. Other Knights of Malta were other Dutch royals, 3 FBI directors, and the father of JFK.
Panoramix 16 hours ago [-]
What does that have to do with ChatGPT?
big-chungus4 22 hours ago [-]
This article is more than 6 years old
oliwarner 20 hours ago [-]
Yup, and their Transparency International score has been getting worse since, with only a small improvement this year.
monegator 21 hours ago [-]
Malta is also where a lot of the fraudolent call centers are based
dgellow 17 hours ago [-]
I think “route through” might be more appropriate
flawn 21 hours ago [-]
Corruption is like cancer.
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chaosbolt 19 hours ago [-]
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lossyalgo 18 hours ago [-]
Since the article is about Malta, the discussions here should be centered on Malta. Sure, everyone knows the US is corrupt as f*** but what relevance does that have here and now? There are plenty of other places on HN to bring up this "argument".
panflute 17 hours ago [-]
What was notable about Malta is not the topic of the article and particularly irrelevant now that corruption in Malta that helps Russia would not be notable.
maltesegirl 17 hours ago [-]
The problem is that while the US and UK are well known countries with lots of press coverage, Malta isn't, so when you link one article in a foreign publication you are getting a highly distorted and politically charged view of a country you otherwise know nothing about.
ashirviskas 17 hours ago [-]
And what should we do about it? Only allow comments about top X world countries?
kakacik 18 hours ago [-]
US is becoming like russia, what a twist. Well, could be worse. Free democratic world will have to align around another leader, I hope it can be Europe but its far from sure.
The bad part is, this is not magically gonna disappear with next election, whoever wins. Literally whoever wins. Just like even decades after 9/11 many things have changed permanently, it will be similar with this. Proposers of some radical changes can be easily shot again, potus or not, or have some other variant of discrediting applied.
I wish I was joking, this is how majority of the world operates. Its very easy for those in power to drag their countries into this, out or weakness or convenience, but extremely hard to fully get out.
euejcidnf 17 hours ago [-]
Europe is far more doomed, the US at least has upsides.
Europe has a downward trend, the Muslim are taking over and it's not doing anything remotely good, there is just no hope or future . Only beautiful historical architecture and beautiful nature and climate.
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justshutup123 24 hours ago [-]
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jerrythegerbil 24 hours ago [-]
Laundering of CC/Trial Accounts/Enterprise LLM inference is already a HUGE market, leveraged in part for distillation attacks on western AI.
A whole country’s worth of accounts just got access to a service we know is being laundered en masse and is also the same tech currently propping up many economies at the moment.
That same country is known for laundering other forms of liquidity. This is par for the course, not propaganda. And it’s going to be a huge problem by November.
9dev 15 hours ago [-]
Funny how some people here mistake criticism for propaganda...
justshutup123 23 hours ago [-]
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gmerc 24 hours ago [-]
Thanks Ivan
wartywhoa23 18 hours ago [-]
You've got an error in Vladimir Vladimirovich.
bingaweek 24 hours ago [-]
The overt hatred people here feel for Russians would make an antisemite blush. This is on the same level as calling random people Schlomo.
ruszki 23 hours ago [-]
Hay, my nickname means “Russian”. And my real country of origin - Hungary was also not ideal until recently. I’ve heard a single instance in the past 40 years, that any of these caused any hatred showed up. And it didn’t even happen to me.
It’s nowhere near what my brother got because he has a darker complexion, and looks like a stereotypical Arab from far away.
So, are you sure that this hatred against the common folks?
bestham 23 hours ago [-]
I think you are mistaking hatred toward the Kremlin for hatred toward the Russian people.
bakugo 22 hours ago [-]
Please explain how calling random people stereotypical Russian names specifically represents hatred toward the Kremlin and not Russians in general.
wqaatwt 19 hours ago [-]
It’s only acceptable to make fun of countries like France or Britain etc. rather than developmentally challenged ones like Russia..
wiseowise 21 hours ago [-]
> but what about Jews
Seriously? Is all that you’ve got?
Don’t want the hatred? Stop the biggest war in Europe since WW2, stop racketeering on a region level, stop acting victimized when there’s no one else to blame for your own actions and start finally working with other countries to build strong partnerships.
pibaker 22 hours ago [-]
I don't understand why you are being downvoted. If someone starts calling people Avi Goldstein in a thread about Israel I’m sure he'll get flagged to death in no time.
wiseowise 21 hours ago [-]
It’s a double standard, because ruskies weren’t oppressed like Jews (at least not by some foreign power). So quit acting like a victim.
hbarka 1 days ago [-]
Next, maybe Anthropic can make Sicily an offer it can’t refuse.
frm88 19 hours ago [-]
Anthropic has Iceland, OpenAI has Greece and now Malta.
That's so interesting. Kind of explains company directions - quality vs quantity.
BLKNSLVR 14 hours ago [-]
As long as death isn't on the line. They wouldn't want to fall for one of the classic blunders.
I'm just wondering when the US will finally put boots on the ground in Iran...
hmottestad 21 hours ago [-]
I assume this is a joke about corruption.
dbbk 14 hours ago [-]
Buy Sicily? At least that would make money
nixass 23 hours ago [-]
Malta is a country, Sicily is a region
hello8402 21 hours ago [-]
> Malta is a country, Sicily is a region
Regions can sign deals too…?
yellow_lead 22 hours ago [-]
A country is a region.
gurjeet 19 hours ago [-]
I believe GP's intent was to point out that a company can get into an agreement with a government (make an offer they can't refuse), but a company cannot get a "region" to sign an agreement/contract with them.
That whole thread is absurd, but if I would have to answer I would say Great Britain is the name of the region/group of islands? Open to be wrong, I know little about the UK
SahAssar 6 hours ago [-]
Great Britain is the big island.
UK (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) is a country consisting of several countries and other territories.
nixass 22 hours ago [-]
Yes the continents too
fragmede 22 hours ago [-]
with a president called Renato Schifani.
nixass 22 hours ago [-]
It doesn't make it any less-region
auggierose 20 hours ago [-]
But what exactly is your point?
rvnx 20 hours ago [-]
38.1097387° N, 13.3520066° E
nixass 19 hours ago [-]
What's their point?
fragmede 13 hours ago [-]
Because Sicily has a President, an offer to them that can't be refused, can be made. Can a region sign contracts? In this case, yes.
nixass 10 hours ago [-]
lol "president"
I have a president in my neighborhood's polka club too.
pera 21 hours ago [-]
I remember back in 2018 during peak crypto bubble the same class nick named Malta as the "Blockchain Island"
rvnx 21 hours ago [-]
Well it’s still the low-tax promise (non-dom status)
HDBaseT 4 hours ago [-]
Malta is a bit of a haven for all sorts of things.
Crypto, eSports, Gambling, VPNs, etc, all have deep roots in Malta because its easy, less taxed, less restricted and for the most part, people view Malta as a good place.
sharpshadow 1 days ago [-]
It’s a voluntary two hour online AI course with 1 year ChatGPT premium reward.
Getting AI basics to the people with playground.
emsign 1 days ago [-]
Getting free data from every Maltese citizen rather.
Rohunyyy 23 hours ago [-]
Data if you pay. Data if it is free. At this point is there any software that is used by the general public that isn't tracking you ?
HKH2 15 hours ago [-]
VLC, Blender, OBS Studio, Krita...
dvfjsdhgfv 15 hours ago [-]
Our only hope as a society in this aspect is to hope that in 2 years or so the prices of RAM fall to the lever where more people are able to use local SOTA models (which, at that time, should correspond to commercial SOTA models 6 months older.
layer8 18 hours ago [-]
Are you saying that OpenAI will deliberately violate the GDPR in Malta?
hello8402 21 hours ago [-]
> Getting free data from every Maltese citizen rather
EU software also collects your data
At least American software is good
If you’re gonna give up your data, at least use the better American software
rvnx 21 hours ago [-]
Give your data to your local police and have a bad experience, or to a remote country with a better tech and that doesn’t care about you. Mhhh.
chm02 22 hours ago [-]
Some key data points, about Malta:
Malta is among Europe's leading adopters. The country ranks first for workplace AI usage and third overall for general AI adoption. Beyond AI, Malta also has one of the highest rates of social media usage in Europe.
This initiative is less about AI literacy or OpenAI and more reflective of the Malta government's policy of making technology accessible across all society.
It's not the first time either, in the early 2000s a similar partnership with Microsoft which provided heavily subsidized microsoft office licenses.
sdfhbdf 21 hours ago [-]
Malta is also a very small country. It has a population of around 500,00 and area of around 310 km2. These are roughly the size of Atlanta, Georgia. It’s not hard to have a high adoption rate if your entire population is so small.
HDBaseT 4 hours ago [-]
Why doesn't Atlanta or Georgia have high adoption rate then?
chm02 21 hours ago [-]
Exactly. Which means this is less about adoption or literacy and more of a government handout.
9dev 14 hours ago [-]
Curious how on every post about Malta, new accounts show up and post pro-Malta comments…
bwb 21 hours ago [-]
How is press freedom in Malta? Was everyone ever held responsible for the car bombing of Daphne?
chm02 21 hours ago [-]
I'm not sure what this has to do with AI but press freedom is poorer than most western European countries and the prosecution has left a lot to be desired. There are rumors of a trial happening later this year.
As a local the Daphne case has been a sore point and something which makes me very angry and sad. However it's not the only country with debatable press freedom. It's somewhat difficult to know that my country has been reduced to a single bad episode.
bostik 19 hours ago [-]
The assassination of an investigative journalist and its subsequent handling is certainly a symptom of the island's embedded corruption. (And I say this as someone who likes the place!) When gambling and international finance make up >10% of the GDP, that's not unexpected. IIRC gambling and online gaming alone used to be >15% of Malta's economy but that balance has shifted over the past decade.
I'd think that the country's regressive anti-abortion laws are a bigger stain on its reputation. You can root out corruption. Moving the nation's Overton window towards a less illiberal stance tends to take a few generations.
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bazzmt 21 hours ago [-]
Press freedom is absolutely not an issue. Certainly much much better than, say, the UK's where getting arrested for a tweet is common.
Regarding DCG's case: trial of the prime suspect due in July I believe. DCG's tragic case was a one-off. Attacks on democracy are much more common and frequent in other Western countries.
frabcus 21 hours ago [-]
Reporters without Borders recently released Press Freedom Index 2026 puts Malta 67th, and the UK at 18. So no, certainly not much better - although looking at some of the historic data, it was better e.g. in 2010.
It's a one year free trial, after that it costs money.
Sophira 1 days ago [-]
And only after a mandatory course, if I'm reading the article correctly.
alpinisme 1 days ago [-]
Honestly depending on how it’s implemented the course could be really socially useful, both for establishing some baseline knowledge that could help avoid some of the pitfalls of too-credulous use of AI and for spurring people to innovate in their local businesses because they’ve been exposed to ideas earlier than would happen “naturally” as ideas just percolate through society
emsign 1 days ago [-]
What a great marketing campaign. How huge was the bribe from OpenAI to the Maltese government to sell out their citizens?
sMarsIntruder 21 hours ago [-]
It’s like what Perplexity did with the PayPal userbase.
Not sure why a bribe would’ve involved: it’s a win-win situation, especially near elections.
sidcool 1 days ago [-]
All that data on all Malta citizens. Remember, if you're more paying, you're the product
zamadatix 1 days ago [-]
Remember, if the government says it's free it almost certainly means the people are actually paying for it.
EGreg 1 days ago [-]
Yes and even if you are paying, you’re still the product!
That’s whats happens in two sided markets. Everyone’s the product.
The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse. The fact that the grandfather comment made a freudian slip makes it funnier.
keerthiko 23 hours ago [-]
> The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse.
I believe the logical term "converse" means swapping the conclusion and the condition in a logical statement, ie converse(if A then B) = if B then A
So here the converse would be "if you're the product, you're not paying". Which doesn't exactly make sense to me as a claim to make here. Did you just mean to reinforce your first sentence? In which case, I think you mean "the inverse", not the converse. However, I have only used the word converse in a "formal logic" scope (proofs) so I'm not sure if it has a more flexible meaning in informal language use.
tczMUFlmoNk 23 hours ago [-]
The converse and inverse are logically equivalent by contraposition, so it doesn't really matter which one you use. If you think through it, you can see that "if you're the product, you're not paying" is equivalent to "if you're paying, you're not the product".
zamadatix 1 days ago [-]
Hear hear! And those who say paying is the only time one has a chance to not be the product should look at getting involved with a genuine charity or volunteer program too. There are no universal rules about this kind of thing.
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akomtu 24 hours ago [-]
Not long ago nearly everyone in the anglosphere had a habit to talk to a pastor, revealing all the dirty secrets under the veil of anonymity. The Church was an incredibly informed organization. Today OpenAI & Anthrophic are re-creating a parody on that tradition: people talk to an AI pastor, under the veil of anonymity, and divulge their darkest secrets.
hello8402 21 hours ago [-]
> All that data on all Malta citizens. Remember, if you're more paying, you're the product
EU-created domestic software is no better
Actually it’s worse. You still surrender your data but get a worse user experience
zkmon 19 hours ago [-]
I asked ChatGPT about corruption levels in Malta and whether the technology companies pay bribes to officials to get contracts. It was honest in its response and said Malta has serious corruption levels by EU standards.
That answers my wondering of why on earth all citizens require a paid service of chatGPT.
nsonha 15 hours ago [-]
> why on earth all citizens require a paid service of chatGPT
If all citizens use ChatGPT as search engine instead of Google, their ability to access information and defend against fake news (as of right now) will be significantly improved and we only shift privacy concerns from Google to Open AI, which does seem like the lesser evil.
zkmon 14 hours ago [-]
ChatGPt is not a facts/news service. It's output is canned by it's system prompt. Infact it's cut-off dates far more into the past compared to other AI services. So the "news" it dishes could be outdated unless it decides search web, in which case it can't be better than google.
nsonha 13 hours ago [-]
is your comment from last year? Because ChatGPT now to me is just a machine that translates prompts to web searches. It's better than Google for unobscure results (which is the majority of searches) and also because there are no ads (yet). You can make the argument that it's not better than Google's AI Mode (not Google Search), but I personally prefer ChatGPT/Grok than AI Mode.
Original point stands that AI is useful and better than manual searches.
Do you think the average people rigorously query multiple angles and carefully read every one of the google results, to synthesize a well rounded viewpoint on any given topic? No, but with LLMs they can do that in one prompt.
mmusc 21 hours ago [-]
General elections are currently happening in Malta. This is purely a vote for us will give you stuff scheme....
gurjeet 19 hours ago [-]
I wanted to see how they'd ensure only a Maltese citizen can use it. It's gated behind something called eID.
> Who can register:
>
> Maltese citizens and residents
> Must have an active eID account
> No previous AI knowledge is required
It's sobering to think that if every single person in Malta -- an entire country! -- signed up for ChatGPT and used it weekly, ChatGPT’s WAU would increase by only a few tenths of a percent.
aaronbrethorst 23 hours ago [-]
Malta has a population of 574,000 people. That's slightly more people than transit through the NYC metro area's airports on a daily basis.
Yes, ChatGPT has a large user base, but Malta's not a particularly meaningful datapoint in terms of the population size.
layer8 17 hours ago [-]
Only by around half a tenth of a percent.
TomGarden 7 hours ago [-]
Anyone else feel like they're going insane sometimes?
It's so simple, everyone on HN knows this, but I want to scream at every non-technical person "these tools are not reliable! You can't trust them!"
They are so useful but the failure modes need to be hammered into everyone at the very start of each onboarding.
It would be totally rational as a layperson to just ignore AI and just check in every few months to ask "is it reliable yet".
zitterbewegung 1 days ago [-]
Would be interesting long term if this sways public opinion about data centers in Malta. I do support though AI literacy in general and this is a good step. Would wonder about the deal in how much this is actually costing Malta if at all.
tomwojcik 23 hours ago [-]
Malta makes money with igaming and money laundering. There's literally no other businesses there, other than basic necessities, and even these barely work. It's only focused on entertainment.
They import food and water. Malta is very hot during the summer. There's AC unit everywhere and it's a default cooling unit as well, as there's no "European winter" there. Everyone collects rain water and stores it on the roof.
They are one tsunami away from being decimated.
There's one company renting servers and it's full of online casinos, just so the companies meet the regulatory requirement.
Malta is the worst place on earth to have a data center I can think of.
purrcat259 22 hours ago [-]
Literally no one I know in the 30+ years I have been here collects rainwater on their roof. Whats your source, r/malta?
chm02 21 hours ago [-]
Most of your comments have nothing to do with operating a data center, and seems like you have some ill feelings towards Malta. Tourism, manufacturing, financial services are all other industries apart from igaming. Parts of your phone are likely to be made in Malta.
Presumably what you refer to as "money laundering" is the impression that Malta attracts foreign investments by offering regulation for poorly regulated industries and tax incentives. Which is essential to maintain competitiveness as a small state. You'd be surprised to hear that most money laundering in Malta is not tied to the igaming industry at all.
Malta is not a good place for a data center because real-estate is expensive and cooling is expensive.
ashirviskas 17 hours ago [-]
What does Malta manufacture?
thenthenthen 22 hours ago [-]
Up until 2026 you could also buy a eu passport in Malta for ~690k euro.
vasco 23 hours ago [-]
You forgot tourism which is their largest money maker.
tomwojcik 23 hours ago [-]
Tourism is relatively big there but only relatively to the population numbers. I'd argue gambling contributes more to the GDP, while tourism only keeps the light on on the economy. Tourism allows the citizens to make money but it's a small country so it doesn't scale. Gambling scales globally.
I have no numbers to back this up.
chrisandchris 22 hours ago [-]
But the internet does, and it is 12% for gambling, against 15-25% for tourism (whichever source you believe).
Tourism scales globally in the same way unless you mean the island would be at 100% occupancy rate already. Also my point is it's hard to trust you when you ignore the top export while talking about exports.
purrcat259 1 days ago [-]
Unlikely. Other than the telcos there's only one proper commercial datacentre here. Space is very constrained and the electricity supply stability + summer heat aren't a fun combination
SOLAR_FIELDS 1 days ago [-]
As a complete layman, I do wonder why you would bother building a datacenter at a place that everyone agrees is going to be basically underwater in the next 50-100 years.
rileymat2 1 days ago [-]
Wouldn’t 45 to 95 years of use be plenty of time for ROI?
purrcat259 22 hours ago [-]
The coasts will definitely be wiped in 100 years but underwater is a bit of an overstatement
IncreasePosts 1 days ago [-]
You're thinking of the maldives.
fragmede 22 hours ago [-]
although, Microsoft did a whole experiment with underwater data centers, so maybe there's lessons from there that could be applied.
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preisschild 1 days ago [-]
OpenAI is inherently incentivized to sell as much LLM compute as possible, that is not neutral "AI literacy". You don't let tobacco companies make anti smoking education either.
charcircuit 1 days ago [-]
>You don't let tobacco companies make anti smoking education either.
Many jurisdictions literally force them to put education on the boxes.
zamadatix 1 days ago [-]
Education written by the government about the risks, not the tobacco company about why cigarettes are great. Hence why the tobacco companies weren't keen on it.
Yokohiii 1 days ago [-]
What has this to do with AI literacy?
emsign 1 days ago [-]
Data centers in a country that has barely enough water and electricity for its citizens? That is utterly ridiculous. This AI hype is going crazy, it's all an insane joke, right?
lpcvoid 16 hours ago [-]
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exabrial 1 days ago [-]
Gosh how generous of malta government officials to transfer those tax earnings straight to the 1%ers pockets
rchaud 23 hours ago [-]
The EU is probably footing the bill for most of it. Part of the funding Malta receives goes towards "digital projects" along with green tech and SME support.
trilogic 10 hours ago [-]
Outrageous, Malta is Europe, it needs an European provider, this is an European security issue. Malta need to align to European values as by agreement with EU.
Andrex 8 hours ago [-]
You're not going far enough.
Closed software has no place in government whatsoever. It should all be open and/or locally run, and ideally GPL/AGPL licensed.
It is another level of stupidity/moral failing to use closed software supplied from outside your nation, though.
627467 1 days ago [-]
Openai seems to be fast forwarding the original Facebook playbook: lobbying for regulatory moat and now OpenAI zero[0]
I run some numbers, how much would it cost to build MaltaGPT - sovereign hosted ChatGPT.
Malta has a population of 500k. Let's assume 100k people use MaltaGPT daily, and they send an average of 10 messages per day, so roughly 1M messages per day. That averages 694 per minute, but at peak could be 3-5x that, so let's say 3000 per minute. Usage will of course vary by day of week and time of day (they could partner with a Pacific island and share inference hardware).
Those 3000 messages per minute translate to 50 messages per second. Let's say average prompt input is 5k tokens, and output is 500. So 250k tokens per second for prompt processing (let's ignore caching for simplicity) and 25k tokens per second for output decode.
If we take a 500B dense model, that concerts to roughly 1 trillion flops per token. So we need 250 petaflops per second of prompt processing and 25 petaflops for output decode. So 275 PFLOPS in compute.
That may sound like a lot, however a NVIDIA DGX B200 machine (8xB200) has a compute of 144 PFLOPS at FP4. That is assuming 100% efficiency which isn't really possible, and we also need to factor in memory usage which we would be limited more by than compute. So let's say we'd need 10 of them. For an entire country to have a sovereign version of ChatGPT.
The cloud cost to rent one machine is around $50/hour, so that would mean our cluster comes to $4.8m per year. However the list price of a machine is around €400k, so the price to buy the cluster outright would be around €5m (you need the rest of the data center too), with operating costs of around €500k per year.
So per citizen: €10 upfront and €1 per year.
iririririr 23 hours ago [-]
showed the same reasoning to a fortune500 before moving to cloud (mind you, we already had the data centers paid for). didn't matter, went full on aws because we got a 40% discount on first year. something along the way of the bad decision triggered some exec bonus. so along the whole company went.
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chaitanyya 8 hours ago [-]
This reminds me of the free internet Facebook tried to launch in India to kill net neutrality
Thank god people protested against it and made them drop the plan.
torginus 19 hours ago [-]
I am worried that a govt would encourage their own citizens to use a foreign service that uploads every professional and personal interactions to an AI companies servers, presumably to be trained on.
sschueller 19 hours ago [-]
It's insane. They would be better of purchasing hardware and running deepseek locally.
At least the usage data would stay sovereign even if the model was trained somewhere else.
hleszek 11 hours ago [-]
I just completed the course and a big part of it was in fact to warn not to use it to send private data.
nuyarusskii 19 hours ago [-]
"Foreign service".. European "sovereignty" is more or less an empty word. Maybe citizens don't understand this fully, but governments do.. (this is why there is no outcry on what happens in Gaza, this is why there is a "consensus" that the Ukranian nazi fascists are not nazi fascists but.. well, Russians brought it upon themselves, they must not have their language and religion in Ukraine, otherwise it is a risk.., this is why European military bases are used in aggression against Iran, this is why "everyone agrees" that China is a lot worse than US, though objectively speaking this is false etc etc)
layer8 17 hours ago [-]
OpenAI has to abide by the GDPR in the EU. The worry should be that US agencies can compel OpenAI to silently violate it.
torginus 7 hours ago [-]
Modelled after the Chinese curse, there should be be the European curse that reads "May the only thing that protects your private life be GDPR"
tariky 16 hours ago [-]
Can I register using VPN malta IP to get free plus?
hleszek 11 hours ago [-]
No, it works using Malta eID identification system which needs you to be a citizen or a resident.
hirako2000 16 hours ago [-]
Probably, if you pass the soon to come age verification process, via some Apple or Google certified device.
wartywhoa23 19 hours ago [-]
2030: OneOpenEye partners with One World Government to enforce mandatory usage of AI on worldizens and outlaw AI dodging.
kriro 19 hours ago [-]
Seems like textbook Inside the Tornado marketing. Pick a country as a bowling pin, show some success, go for a different/bigger country. Presumably cover EU first this way. Be the first to offer all-citizens licenses.
blfr 1 days ago [-]
The subsidies deployed by the industry are so massive I don't even know if consumers need public assistance here. It's kinda like the gov was subsidizing web hosting or basic banking. The price for a regular consumer already barely hovers above zero.
Just look at this list of services included in Google's AI Pro subscription[1]. Google took everything it could think any consumer might need and bundled for $20/mo. There's even $10 GCP credit (that you can use for AI API calls).
It's a ploy to drive adoption. Once it's considered essential they can turn the screws in massive contracts with governments, big enterprises, universities, and public school systems. Probably some genuine competition on price, but the equilibrium price is probably below cost and not sustainable.
loloquwowndueo 1 days ago [-]
First step of enshittification :)
fragmede 22 hours ago [-]
Which definition of that are you using?
loloquwowndueo 15 hours ago [-]
Huh?
Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
This is at the “good to their users” phase - giving free access to an otherwise non-free product is being good to them, right?
weird-eye-issue 1 days ago [-]
If only it came with YouTube Premium... Most of that list is just AI in existing products which is not all that interesting. You get better value and models through ChatGPT or Claude especially if you are a developer
LeoPanthera 1 days ago [-]
It does come with a discount for YouTube Premium.
weird-eye-issue 22 hours ago [-]
I use a workspace account in order to have my own domain and it seems like Google AI Pro is not even an option for me lol
dwa3592 1 days ago [-]
Thank you for this comment and holy cow, I have the pro subscription and didn't know it came with that many bells.
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ecommerceguy 1 days ago [-]
I had a free 3 month trial I just terminated. I deemed it too expensive.
HDBaseT 3 hours ago [-]
As a Student, I got 1 year for free.
Purchasing a new Pixel will also give 1 year for free.
loloquwowndueo 1 days ago [-]
Free is too expensive? Were you expecting to get paid for using it?
esafak 1 days ago [-]
It should be understood that he canceled before Google started charging him.
conradev 1 days ago [-]
The government does subsidize basic banking, though?
pishpash 1 days ago [-]
That's not close to "everything ... any consumer might need". It's a list of useless things, other than 5TB of storage. Granted, cloud storage typically sells for more than this, so they are offering Gemini for something like -$15/mo.
VortexLain 19 hours ago [-]
This pretty much means OpenAI becomes a monopoly in Malta. Seems anti-competitive.
Ylpertnodi 8 hours ago [-]
Politicians gotta politic.
magenta4 20 hours ago [-]
Shady companies do this so that people get locked into the product and then come to expect it. Then the companies suck the blood out of the local and national government for every cent.
trvz 20 hours ago [-]
Too many people are stupid-stubborn and not even willing to pay 5$ a month for an online service that would help them greatly.
If a government thinks that ChatGPT even in its current form is a big boon, it makes sense to do this.
This is also insurance - your population gains LLM literacy and will have an advantage over other countries; even if it's only a tiny bit, at the level of states it adds up.
wartywhoa23 18 hours ago [-]
> Too many people are stupid-stubborn and not even willing to pay 5$ a month.
No, not gonna pay yet another tax, mr. Taxman.
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noIdeaTheSecond 6 hours ago [-]
Is Malta a corrupt country?
HDBaseT 3 hours ago [-]
Moderately corrupt, slightly higher than the average nation.
varispeed 1 days ago [-]
Can't imagine the size of brown envelope. Handing over your entire nation's thoughts to a foreign company operating under US Cloud Act in normal circumstances would be considered a risk to national security. Why not invest in home grown talent and companies?
applfanboysbgon 1 days ago [-]
Malta is the size of a small city, I don't think national security or investing into home grown companies comes into play here.
phillc73 1 days ago [-]
Malta is part of the EU. I am personally very surprised about this partnership, just in the context of data security, privacy and the GDPR. How is the privacy of these EU citizens protected when all their prompts and data is sent to OpenAI? How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records, a right they have under the GDPR with a compliant data processor?
Aurornis 1 days ago [-]
How is this any different than EU citizens accessing OpenAI, which is already available in the EU?
Nobody is obligated to use it. It just moves the price to $0 for people in Malta who choose to use it. Same service.
beering 1 days ago [-]
I’m very confused as to what you are asking here. Do you think OpenAI does not serve ChatGPT to EU users already under EU law?
phillc73 18 hours ago [-]
Of course ChatGPT is available to EU citizens, should they choose to use it. That’s very different to the Maltese government actively promoting use of ChatGPT.
Of course Maltese citizens can still choose not to use ChatGPT (until it becomes mandatory), but if the State supported education is bound to one particular tool, storing user data outside the EU’s jurisdiction, I think that’s something to discuss.
applfanboysbgon 1 days ago [-]
ChatGPT is already available to users in the EU. It already has an EU-aligned terms of service. Not that I'd trust them, because the GDPR has been borderline useless in reality, but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering.
> How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records
Probably by sending an e-mail to a designated address, like most services that operate in the EU, but you can read their TOS if you'd like to be sure.
varispeed 1 days ago [-]
> but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering.
Care to elaborate or we have become completely apathetic to any display of sleaze?
applfanboysbgon 1 days ago [-]
I mean, it's just a literal non-event legally. I'm repeating myself here, but OpenAI already operates in the EU. EU users can already use ChatGPT, with some assurances about adhering to GDPR. Offering the ad-free tier to a subset of EU users for free, who could already use the tier with ads for free, doesn't change anything legally in regards to data processing.
If you want my commentary on the political context, obviously I think it's not very intelligent for nations to be trusting a US corporation with all of their citizens' data. I think the most impactful use of LLMs is going to be their usage as surveillance and propaganda tools, so this is probably not a prudent decision. But legally, as pertains to GDPR, this is not different from the status quo in any way.
fock 1 days ago [-]
- Malta is selling passports and harboring criminals who kill journalists (we all remember Daphne Caruana Galizia don't we?).
- buying votes/parties there would get you 10 times the MEPs you get in Germany or France.
- their mayors can veto EU policy... This EU-thing really is democratic!
so: I doubt anyone has to care about that pesky GDPR if they buy the government of Malta.
morkalork 1 days ago [-]
Worse than that, it's bi-directional. The model's responses and tuning now influences a whole nation of people.
netsharc 1 days ago [-]
It's an interesting way to control the population.. let them delegate thinking to systems, and then just control the systems to respond to your (you = government) preference.
My analogy is using AI is like using a navigation system, you can end up delegating everything to it and drive into a river...
wartywhoa23 18 hours ago [-]
>and drive into a river...
More like off the cliff!
jonplackett 20 hours ago [-]
> for one year
So it’s basically I giant government-sponsored free trial.
ulrischa 16 hours ago [-]
I wished Germany would do something similar
tom1337 16 hours ago [-]
I certainly hope our government is not doing anything similar. I don't want them to pay millions to a foreign company like OpenAI and basically kill competition with that.
lpcvoid 16 hours ago [-]
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rendx 1 days ago [-]
> "Malta’s AI for All initiative will offer people of all backgrounds the opportunity to learn how AI can be used responsibly through a course developed by the University of Malta. The course is designed to help people understand what AI is, what it can and can’t do, and how to use it responsibly at home and work. After the course is completed, citizens can access ChatGPT Plus for one year at no cost to them."*
dawnerd 1 days ago [-]
Gotta get them hooked and reliant on it. It’s why they subsidized the entire software industry to adopt it.
34df 1 days ago [-]
OAI really believes LLMs are going to have the same revolutionary effect as personal computers did.... lmao.
beering 1 days ago [-]
Yeah, I think we can all agree that personal computers were a mistake.
Forgeties79 1 days ago [-]
Even reading this as a sarcastic comment I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.
julianlam 1 days ago [-]
> for one year
snort
CrzyLngPwd 19 hours ago [-]
The first hit is always free.
1295817 1 days ago [-]
The comments here were not sufficiently obsequious towards AI companies, so the submission dropped from the front page to page three in minutes.
That is how AI boosterism works here.
hello8402 21 hours ago [-]
> The comments here were not sufficiently obsequious towards AI companies
Tech employees worried their stock will drop in value (laugh emoji)
foxglacier 1 days ago [-]
How?? Are you saying there's a lot of silent AI-boosters on HN voting it down despite almost every single comment here being non-obsequious? Looks like your model of reality has detached from modelling reality.
eashG 23 hours ago [-]
Your comment does not even internally make any sense. Go ask a clanker, 80 IQ guy.
hirako2000 16 hours ago [-]
Is it just me or genAi is starting to look like a massive surveillance program?
On the taxpayer money.
If you force me to pay taxes, and you offer me free access to inference, I don't see why I would run my local, privacy-focus model.
rtlambh 1 days ago [-]
A gambling, money laundering and Mafia paradise where journalists are killed for investigating the Mafia partners with OpenAI. A match made in heaven!
Next, force an eyeball scan on the peasant population.
Muromec 1 days ago [-]
Eyball scans are already there on the border for other people. So are AI turrets shooting people on sight, just a different border
purrcat259 1 days ago [-]
Unfortunate thats the reputation we have :(
eska 1 days ago [-]
I used to work for a hosting company, and all the shady business like exploitation of children and sex workers came from there unfortunately. But that’s because people move their business there for legal reasons, not because of their residents I assume.
martinbfine 1 days ago [-]
Welcome to the 1990's internet days redux in the form of AI! Can't wait for the new AI devices and Web 4.0! So exciting!
arvid-lind 21 hours ago [-]
You can't even imagine what the AI of Things will look like!
syngrog66 1 days ago [-]
Facts for context:
Malta has a population of only 550k.
Everyone in Malta could already, before this deal/plan, and even without it now, use ChatGPT (or any other LLM model/service, whether free or premium.)
purrcat259 1 days ago [-]
Citation needed. I haven't heard of this.
I'm Maltese so feel free to be as detailed as needed.
collingreen 1 days ago [-]
They are saying that the product is already available then implying a government deal on behalf of all citizens doesn't matter because the product is already available.
purrcat259 1 days ago [-]
Maltese population are historically price sensitive. €20 a month isn't something you easily justify especially with recent cost of living increases.
So the fact that you get it free after doing some basic due diligence is actually a big deal in the local context.
kdheiwns 1 days ago [-]
Anyone can use ChatGPT for free already. The vast majority of people using AI as a search engine alternative/chatbot never have any reason to pay. You don't even need an account.
Not sure who is more corrupt these days: governments or big corporations.
What’s dangerous here is people will eventually stop thinking critically altogether, about anything, and their view of the world will be based on what they are shown on AI apps.
romanovcode 17 hours ago [-]
Ugh, gives bad flashbacks of when Facebook did free access to all citizens in particular countries. Later only to harvest data and manipulate elections.
bossyTeacher 17 hours ago [-]
I wonder who is paying the bill for a nationwide OpenAI subscription. Is OpenAI doing this so they can show present (and potential) shareholders an increase in the number of users and ask for more money?
a3m_router_dev 7 hours ago [-]
test content for HN
ninjahawk1 1 days ago [-]
I’m personally not a fan of OpenAI always referring to their model as “providing intelligence as a utility.” Sounds very condescending, are you saying this isn’t something we already have? If that’s the opinion, may be good to reflect on how the models were trained. On millions upon millions of books which no authors were compensated for.
But that’s besides the point, the whole initiative is self-defeating by design. This isn’t like power, it’s something humans do inherently possess, this is simply a way to amplify what already exists. Intelligent people using AI generally seem to be more productive than when they don’t use it, and lazy or unintelligent people generally see cognitive decline, at least based on what I’ve heard online but I could be wrong on that.
So saying “this is where you get intelligence” is both false marketing and destructive to OpenAI as a company, since by all definitions, it isn’t true.
arcanemachiner 1 days ago [-]
> I’m personally not a fan of OpenAI always referring to their model as “providing intelligence as a utility.” Sounds very condescending, are you saying this isn’t something we already have?
Your body also generates electricity and natural gas. Do you also get upset when energy companies claim to provide these services as a utility?
malfist 1 days ago [-]
Is the electricity or natural gas that your body produces a defining feature of humanity?
Does AI actually provide intelligence?
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raq98 1 days ago [-]
"Humans also produce farts" is a new low. Can the AI people be interned or moved to some seasteading libertarian hellhole so the rest of us can live a normal life?
archagon 1 days ago [-]
I think we’ll need certified human/no-ai communities at some point in the near future.
trollbridge 1 days ago [-]
My brother is actually moving to one (although that's not the core focus of the community, but they are extremely sceptical of AI there).
I suspect in a few years it's going to be strange to talk to him and other people there. It's already hard to explain to people that "Yeah, you can have a phone call and it can sound like your dad but it might just be a chat bot."
bluefirebrand 1 days ago [-]
I'm in, where do we start?
If I never have to hear anything about AI ever again it will be too soon
kovek 1 days ago [-]
LLMs are like a search engine that autocompletes. It's a tool.
pizza 1 days ago [-]
you can say the same thing of the watts in a person too
Muromec 1 days ago [-]
>I’m personally not a fan of OpenAI always referring to their model as “providing intelligence as a utility.” Sounds very condescending, are you saying this isn’t something we already have?
We do and we don't. If you would go out there and talk to a random person about elliptic curves and matrix multiplications and whether you hit a performance ceiling in a specific 2x2 multiplication thingy with Karatsuba and wnaf, they would not know half the words, but the lying and flattering machine will be able to hold the conversation.
The thing will not get all things right and bullshit me about DSTU4145 using normal basis, will lie about A being set to 1 for all standard curves, but it's definitely more intelligence that you can get from a taxi driver.
If it's not general superintelligence right there for five bucks a piece, I don't know what is
34df 1 days ago [-]
None of those things qualify as intelligence.
Is a calculator intelligent? I can 'talk' to it via pushing buttons.
Muromec 21 hours ago [-]
In a limited way it is more intelligent than some people, but it doesn't generalise.
rvnx 21 hours ago [-]
80085
Proof that we reached AGI 50 years ago
malfist 1 days ago [-]
Is a dictionary intelligent?
hilariously 1 days ago [-]
These philosophical questions are decades if not older https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
And the answer is "depends on who you ask and how many capabilities it has"
Muromec 1 days ago [-]
Does the prayer by a kafir not knowing the language in which the prayer is recited get forgiveness?
I mean, what's the point of this question even. The thing is either useful or fun or it's not. I personally think the whole AI is the work of devil tempting us, but some people would say that about pork sausages and Paulaner and I like my pork sausages with Paulaner.
preisschild 1 days ago [-]
> We do and we don't. If you would go out there and talk to a random person about elliptic curves and matrix multiplications and whether you hit a performance ceiling in a specific 2x2 multiplication thingy with Karatsuba and wnaf, they would not know half the words, but the lying and flattering machine will be able to hold the conversation.
Wikipedia has existed for decades...
Muromec 1 days ago [-]
You can't talk to wikipedia either, but it exists and is helpful, yes.
martin-t 1 days ago [-]
Then perhaps their signalling isn't meant for you but for people who have to pay those pesky expensive intelligent people like translators, programmers, designers and writers. Those people would benefit greatly if they could rent intelligence much cheaper from companies like OpenAI.
delusional 1 days ago [-]
> providing intelligence as a utility
Lol, they are literally just promising to make people fungible. Tale as old as time.
hansmayer 17 hours ago [-]
So, they talked the government of Malta into picking up the tab for ChatShit-Generator ?
martin-t 1 days ago [-]
Surely the deal is beneficial for both sides.
For OpenAI because they get a lot of money and and for the government because they can keep tabs on how people use LLMs to make sure they're not doing anything naughty.
mock-possum 1 days ago [-]
Smart move, just wish a more ethical outfit was making it.
hello8402 21 hours ago [-]
> Smart move, just wish a more ethical outfit was making it.
EU created software like Mistral is no different
arvid-lind 21 hours ago [-]
> Mistral is no different
come on now, surely you're not serious.
neon_me 1 days ago [-]
... rather than that, they should prepay everyone a few hours of therapy and aroma sticks. A waaay more profit in the long game.
zombot 20 hours ago [-]
Wow, a whole country to spy on, for free. Life as a tech oligarch must be sweet.
emsign 1 days ago [-]
WTF? Corruption?
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netfortius 22 hours ago [-]
Free data from citizens of a country, to feed the AI beast - who wouldn't want to be part of that? /s
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sauercrowd 1 days ago [-]
TL;DR: they made a course for citizens
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irishcoffee 1 days ago [-]
Nauseating.
I run local models. They're fun to play with. I get a bit of a dopamine hit when it works.
They're selling addiction. This is fucking disgusting.
alfiedotwtf 1 days ago [-]
To be honest, PR pieces don’t all need to go on HN, especially when this is probably not news worthy to anyone here except Maltese living in Malta
GaggiX 1 days ago [-]
I'm not Maltese and I did find it interesting.
muwtyhg 1 days ago [-]
Could you articulate what part you find interesting?
ipaddr 1 days ago [-]
I find the small sample size of Malta to be like tests they have done in Iceland. It won't cost them too much and will generate interesting answers
GaggiX 1 days ago [-]
The fact that a nation provides free access to SOTA models to all his citizen via this partnership, I mean it's not something I have seen before, therefore I find it interesting, also Malta is not too far from me.
cj 1 days ago [-]
Can you name one private/government partnership that resembles this one?
I can’t.
qsera 21 hours ago [-]
Bad idea..
bekon 20 hours ago [-]
Raping taxpayer with his own money is not Capitalism. Today I will remind you.
MagicMoonlight 1 days ago [-]
It’s a shame ChatGPT is total trash now.
Muromec 1 days ago [-]
Thanks CCP for having providing one that is as lying and flattering but cheaper.
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musicale 1 days ago [-]
What could possibly go wrong?
musicale 3 hours ago [-]
Nothing, apparently.
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I got a spot. We were shown how to copy and paste data from excel and other data sources into the chat interface. We had sample data to work with, there was always someone in class who would say "mine didn't work." The developers in the room asked about codex, the instructor said she wasn't a developer.
We did get a certificate though. There was nothing they could teach that you couldn't learn by using the free version in your own time. Whatever they are doing with the Maltese government is just to increase the monthly active user count.
But the people in charge just want the employees to just answer some questions so they can handover Claude or Chat GPT licenses so they can show people are using AI to improve productivity.
There are people who don’t know when to use AI and when not to use Ai and think they can just Claude their way through everything. I wanted to change that but when the whole idea is to just increase AI use I guess they don’t care about how AI is used.
I will not address the things he pitched (as coming soon), as I'm a developer and (hopefully) not the target audience, but I was quiet surprised when they made a questioneer asking how many people use ai and how frequently. (The target demographic was middle management, product owners etc)
75% of people answering said they're using it daily and considered it an essential tool they need to work
Considering it was anonymous I was expecting lower numbers, honestly.
In the recent past, my department received an email from on high with a list of people who were yet to complete the "anonymous" survey.
I always assume my work-survey answers are traceable back to me, whether it's via self-doxxing with my answers, tracing links of the rootkit-level MDM software that can record my screen, but they pinky-promise to only use for remote assistance, in case I open a ticket with IT.
Trusting that process to be done well is probably not the greatest plan.
That’s not anonymous at that point. That’s an agenda.
Even when you use a tool like Microsoft Forms, where MS really can’t be bothered to deanonimize users unless 3 letter agencies get involved, it’s still possible to do timestamp matching between the proxy/VPN logs and the submission time.
Asume real anonymity only if the URL is the same for everyone and you can fill the survey from any computer on the internet.
But the explanation for why people overhype AI usage is probably simpler. They want to keep their license because it’s a nice perk. They’ll use it to get the gist of a long email thread without bothering the read the details, to get some meeting minutes without validating if that was actually what was said, to generate some crappy modern equivalent of wordart graphics for their presentations, and feel like the time saved to generate what most time is slop was worth it.
When I worked on this (outside of coding) it was a pain to find a use case that really benefited. These were all niche uses that fit an LLM like a glove. These rest was slop, I could see the usage reports, and the BS self reporting surveys. Everyone inflated the numbers and usage to justify keeping their license.
Of course if you record created/updated timestamps on both, insert both records in the same order, accidently record the user code in the response data, take backups in between responses, have identifying questions or just don't have that many people responding it's easy/not hard to reverse engineer.
But it's quite possible to do right, I did it quite effectively almost by mistake years ago. Sent a customer survey out with generated codes as identifiers recorded with answers. Before sending reminder emails a script grabbed the codes, marked the customer as responded and wiped the code (so I could just get future responses where code was not null to mark next people off). Although I had timestamps the script meant customers were updated in blocks, there really wasn't any data to link them.
I know because the Boss was not happy he couldn't find out which customer had said what, and I had to point out all the communication (with customers and me) called it an anonymous survey, so why would I have saved them?
So it is possible, just not easy even if you intend it, and it's often not intentional...
I don't trust anonymous surveys either now...
If the participant has to trust the survey creator, then it is not anonymous. The survey creator can link the data.
If the survey creator has to trust the participant, the survey is anonymous. The participant can lie in the survey, lie about participating, or submit the survey multiple times.
Your example was not anonymous. But you did not break the participant's trust, thank you! (Or maybe you are lying.)
Anonymous example: Sending a clean link to people to take the survey. If not enough answers have been received, a reminder can be sent to all, with a clause, that says: "if you have already done it, you can ignore the reminder."
The job market right now sucks so everyone is really just trying to not be the next cut.
Could still be faked ofc, but I don't think they did.
> (The target demographic was middle management, product owners etc)
This leaves a fairly wide set of options for what "essential" entails.
Do 75% of middle management and product owners actually need AI for their job? Seems unlikely.
Do 75% of middle management and product owners use AI to slop up emails, meeting "summaries", and reports? That's quite possible. Would they declare it to be an "essential tool"? One imagines they are not too fond of actually doing meaningful work.
It's quite easy to get high percentages like this when the AI is involved in make-work and the costs are low if not zero. The moment inference costs go up, most of this usage will evaporate.
It all rest on the shoulders of responsible manager(s) on how moral they are. Many are not.
But maybe the simplest answer is that most people do use the tools daily now and consider them essential...?
As much as HN would hate to think that
Why not?
It’s much more of an issue with devs
The thing I have a real issue with, and which seems more common, is the belief that they can cut raises because AI will make them more productive. In that case, the best employees (read: those most capable of leveraging AI effectively) will leave to find better paying work and the remainder will be too busy with the additional workload to have time to figure out how to use AI to make themselves more efficient.
Fuck all of this.
I jumped at the chance to not have to be in the OR from 7am-5pm doing the same old same old but instead relax and learn something useful.
Bad choice.
The instructor and material were deadeningly boring; I couldn't even begin to enter into the computer the right search request format and terms and as I sat there I was reminded of my days in elementary school watching the big round clock on the wall tick away the minutes until the final dismissal bell.
Because our chairman was in the class and had encouraged all of us tenure-track faculty to take the course, I couldn't bail after the first day but had to return for the second day.
Subsequently I continued using the biomedical librarian to request my searches (it took just a couple minutes to fill out the form) with excellent results.
https://www.npr.org/2012/05/03/151860154/put-away-the-bell-c...
I asked if he had tried out Claude code or anything similar. His answer: My company has scheduled a training course in that so I'll wait
:(
That's the hint. Most companies >50 employees suck.
All positive comments here come from the financially invested or the near-retirement people who need cognitive assistance and are willing to sell out future generations.
As someone who never bothered to get any certificates (beyond a University degree) even when I'd do online courses (of which the most course-like must've been fast.ai), are these ever actually useful in any manner?
Many of them you can simply take the exam over and over until you pass, and then stick a shiny stupid badge on your LinkedIn profile.
In our case, we get our entire team AWS solution architect certs as well just so we can always tell our customers that our whole team is certified (we do a lot of “forward deployed” stuff for enterprise customers).
Grnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnguuurnnngh.
I remember the copy and paste drudgery from the early days of ChatGPT. It was a miserable and joyless experience. Nowadays (and for a long time) you can simply attach the file.
It does take time and a little skill to know the edges of the AI tools. What's reasonable? What's not? What's likely to hallucinate? You could get something in the rough bounds of trust.
I can see a class helping with that.
These violations come with hefty fines.
Companies and employees always make their decisions based on a risk/reward basis.
Sometimes a commercial contract (like Microsoft Copilot) is enough to cover your ass and to meet the needs of the regulator.
Even if the operator is exactly the same.
Laws are constraints to navigate, but if you are successful enough (ahem, rich) then they don’t apply to you.
At the moment what the EU wants is to make sure that in the long-term they can access your private information.
Realistically if you are in the EU you have more risks telling your darkest secrets to a EU-hosted model that the government will arrest you, than to a Chinese-model (who doesn’t collaborate).
EU Chat Control, is here to protect kids and protect you from terrorists; you don’t want to claim you support pedophiles right ?
So following these rules is always a matter of choice.
Respect and you will be stuck with your shitty Mistral and no privacy, not respect and you have your shiny Claude that you have to think what to input inside.
EDIT: Needless to say I loath it and I don't know why.
For the not liking it part, I guess that if someone writes a long text, there are more chances to find at least a point of disagreement than a very short sentence
Usually this would require the respective customer to agree to sharing that data with a third party.
I'd be surprised if there weren't already phishing attacks that work by pretending to be a LLM.
But nobody uses LLMs that aren't Gemini or Copilot enterprise, as they are already on Google cloud or Microsoft offering already.
And there's high pressure on workers to find use cases where AI can boost productivity, with bonuses dangling on who finds real case scenarios.
I don't know about the results of these experiments, but I know unhappiness is widespread.
"Make the AI do xyz"
That clearly needs a custom harness to integrate with ORG tooling.
"No we won't pay for token usage, make it work with the subscription were already paying for"...
Guess you don't want AI then...
Cue up the next cynical bad take.
That's true for almost everything in life.
> Whatever they are doing with the Maltese government is just to increase the monthly active user count.
That's one of their main goals. Another main goal is to also make money. There are a few other main goals.
What do you mean by "just to increase"? Did they try to hide their goal? Was it a secret agenda nobody knows about?
These are some strange tautological comments.
"Malta’s corruption is not just in the heart of government, it’s the entire body"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/03/malta-...
Could you give examples of a few of these to illustrate the kind of thing we're talking about? It currently feels a bit hand wavy from both sides.
Your username and comment history suggests it might not be wise to take your word as objective truth.
That’s quite a difference to most other European countries, although not all.
That’s quite a difference to most other European countries
The difference being that you personally are not prejudiced against them for no other reason than your ignorance and arrogance.
https://trap.org.ua/en/publications/parisian-quarters-monten...
https://www.icij.org/news/2024/10/french-authorities-seize-7...
https://fakti.bg/en/imoti/927878-the-luxury-properties-of-th...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_money_in_Malta
The bad part is, this is not magically gonna disappear with next election, whoever wins. Literally whoever wins. Just like even decades after 9/11 many things have changed permanently, it will be similar with this. Proposers of some radical changes can be easily shot again, potus or not, or have some other variant of discrediting applied.
I wish I was joking, this is how majority of the world operates. Its very easy for those in power to drag their countries into this, out or weakness or convenience, but extremely hard to fully get out.
A whole country’s worth of accounts just got access to a service we know is being laundered en masse and is also the same tech currently propping up many economies at the moment.
That same country is known for laundering other forms of liquidity. This is par for the course, not propaganda. And it’s going to be a huge problem by November.
It’s nowhere near what my brother got because he has a darker complexion, and looks like a stereotypical Arab from far away.
So, are you sure that this hatred against the common folks?
Seriously? Is all that you’ve got?
Don’t want the hatred? Stop the biggest war in Europe since WW2, stop racketeering on a region level, stop acting victimized when there’s no one else to blame for your own actions and start finally working with other countries to build strong partnerships.
https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-and-iceland-announc...
https://openai.com/global-affairs/openai-for-greece/
I'm just wondering when the US will finally put boots on the ground in Iran...
Regions can sign deals too…?
UK (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) is a country consisting of several countries and other territories.
I have a president in my neighborhood's polka club too.
Crypto, eSports, Gambling, VPNs, etc, all have deep roots in Malta because its easy, less taxed, less restricted and for the most part, people view Malta as a good place.
EU software also collects your data
At least American software is good
If you’re gonna give up your data, at least use the better American software
Malta is among Europe's leading adopters. The country ranks first for workplace AI usage and third overall for general AI adoption. Beyond AI, Malta also has one of the highest rates of social media usage in Europe.
This initiative is less about AI literacy or OpenAI and more reflective of the Malta government's policy of making technology accessible across all society.
It's not the first time either, in the early 2000s a similar partnership with Microsoft which provided heavily subsidized microsoft office licenses.
As a local the Daphne case has been a sore point and something which makes me very angry and sad. However it's not the only country with debatable press freedom. It's somewhat difficult to know that my country has been reduced to a single bad episode.
I'd think that the country's regressive anti-abortion laws are a bigger stain on its reputation. You can root out corruption. Moving the nation's Overton window towards a less illiberal stance tends to take a few generations.
Regarding DCG's case: trial of the prime suspect due in July I believe. DCG's tragic case was a one-off. Attacks on democracy are much more common and frequent in other Western countries.
https://rsf.org/en/index
Not sure why a bribe would’ve involved: it’s a win-win situation, especially near elections.
That’s whats happens in two sided markets. Everyone’s the product.
The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse. The fact that the grandfather comment made a freudian slip makes it funnier.
I believe the logical term "converse" means swapping the conclusion and the condition in a logical statement, ie converse(if A then B) = if B then A
So here the converse would be "if you're the product, you're not paying". Which doesn't exactly make sense to me as a claim to make here. Did you just mean to reinforce your first sentence? In which case, I think you mean "the inverse", not the converse. However, I have only used the word converse in a "formal logic" scope (proofs) so I'm not sure if it has a more flexible meaning in informal language use.
EU-created domestic software is no better
Actually it’s worse. You still surrender your data but get a worse user experience
That answers my wondering of why on earth all citizens require a paid service of chatGPT.
If all citizens use ChatGPT as search engine instead of Google, their ability to access information and defend against fake news (as of right now) will be significantly improved and we only shift privacy concerns from Google to Open AI, which does seem like the lesser evil.
Original point stands that AI is useful and better than manual searches.
Do you think the average people rigorously query multiple angles and carefully read every one of the google results, to synthesize a well rounded viewpoint on any given topic? No, but with LLMs they can do that in one prompt.
> Who can register: > > Maltese citizens and residents > Must have an active eID account > No previous AI knowledge is required
From https://mdia.gov.mt/services/ai-for-all-ai-ghal-kulhadd/
Yes, ChatGPT has a large user base, but Malta's not a particularly meaningful datapoint in terms of the population size.
It's so simple, everyone on HN knows this, but I want to scream at every non-technical person "these tools are not reliable! You can't trust them!"
They are so useful but the failure modes need to be hammered into everyone at the very start of each onboarding.
It would be totally rational as a layperson to just ignore AI and just check in every few months to ask "is it reliable yet".
They import food and water. Malta is very hot during the summer. There's AC unit everywhere and it's a default cooling unit as well, as there's no "European winter" there. Everyone collects rain water and stores it on the roof.
They are one tsunami away from being decimated.
There's one company renting servers and it's full of online casinos, just so the companies meet the regulatory requirement.
Malta is the worst place on earth to have a data center I can think of.
Presumably what you refer to as "money laundering" is the impression that Malta attracts foreign investments by offering regulation for poorly regulated industries and tax incentives. Which is essential to maintain competitiveness as a small state. You'd be surprised to hear that most money laundering in Malta is not tied to the igaming industry at all.
Malta is not a good place for a data center because real-estate is expensive and cooling is expensive.
I have no numbers to back this up.
[1] https://timesofmalta.com/article/the-15-billion-question-is-...
[2] https://www.emcs.com.mt/emcs-tourism-malta-economy/
Many jurisdictions literally force them to put education on the boxes.
Closed software has no place in government whatsoever. It should all be open and/or locally run, and ideally GPL/AGPL licensed.
It is another level of stupidity/moral failing to use closed software supplied from outside your nation, though.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Zero
Malta has a population of 500k. Let's assume 100k people use MaltaGPT daily, and they send an average of 10 messages per day, so roughly 1M messages per day. That averages 694 per minute, but at peak could be 3-5x that, so let's say 3000 per minute. Usage will of course vary by day of week and time of day (they could partner with a Pacific island and share inference hardware).
Those 3000 messages per minute translate to 50 messages per second. Let's say average prompt input is 5k tokens, and output is 500. So 250k tokens per second for prompt processing (let's ignore caching for simplicity) and 25k tokens per second for output decode.
If we take a 500B dense model, that concerts to roughly 1 trillion flops per token. So we need 250 petaflops per second of prompt processing and 25 petaflops for output decode. So 275 PFLOPS in compute.
That may sound like a lot, however a NVIDIA DGX B200 machine (8xB200) has a compute of 144 PFLOPS at FP4. That is assuming 100% efficiency which isn't really possible, and we also need to factor in memory usage which we would be limited more by than compute. So let's say we'd need 10 of them. For an entire country to have a sovereign version of ChatGPT.
The cloud cost to rent one machine is around $50/hour, so that would mean our cluster comes to $4.8m per year. However the list price of a machine is around €400k, so the price to buy the cluster outright would be around €5m (you need the rest of the data center too), with operating costs of around €500k per year.
So per citizen: €10 upfront and €1 per year.
Thank god people protested against it and made them drop the plan.
At least the usage data would stay sovereign even if the model was trained somewhere else.
Just look at this list of services included in Google's AI Pro subscription[1]. Google took everything it could think any consumer might need and bundled for $20/mo. There's even $10 GCP credit (that you can use for AI API calls).
[1] https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/14534406?hl=en
Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
This is at the “good to their users” phase - giving free access to an otherwise non-free product is being good to them, right?
If a government thinks that ChatGPT even in its current form is a big boon, it makes sense to do this.
This is also insurance - your population gains LLM literacy and will have an advantage over other countries; even if it's only a tiny bit, at the level of states it adds up.
No, not gonna pay yet another tax, mr. Taxman.
Nobody is obligated to use it. It just moves the price to $0 for people in Malta who choose to use it. Same service.
Of course Maltese citizens can still choose not to use ChatGPT (until it becomes mandatory), but if the State supported education is bound to one particular tool, storing user data outside the EU’s jurisdiction, I think that’s something to discuss.
> How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records
Probably by sending an e-mail to a designated address, like most services that operate in the EU, but you can read their TOS if you'd like to be sure.
Care to elaborate or we have become completely apathetic to any display of sleaze?
If you want my commentary on the political context, obviously I think it's not very intelligent for nations to be trusting a US corporation with all of their citizens' data. I think the most impactful use of LLMs is going to be their usage as surveillance and propaganda tools, so this is probably not a prudent decision. But legally, as pertains to GDPR, this is not different from the status quo in any way.
so: I doubt anyone has to care about that pesky GDPR if they buy the government of Malta.
My analogy is using AI is like using a navigation system, you can end up delegating everything to it and drive into a river...
More like off the cliff!
So it’s basically I giant government-sponsored free trial.
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That is how AI boosterism works here.
Tech employees worried their stock will drop in value (laugh emoji)
On the taxpayer money.
If you force me to pay taxes, and you offer me free access to inference, I don't see why I would run my local, privacy-focus model.
Next, force an eyeball scan on the peasant population.
Malta has a population of only 550k.
Everyone in Malta could already, before this deal/plan, and even without it now, use ChatGPT (or any other LLM model/service, whether free or premium.)
I'm Maltese so feel free to be as detailed as needed.
So the fact that you get it free after doing some basic due diligence is actually a big deal in the local context.
https://chatgpt.com
What’s dangerous here is people will eventually stop thinking critically altogether, about anything, and their view of the world will be based on what they are shown on AI apps.
But that’s besides the point, the whole initiative is self-defeating by design. This isn’t like power, it’s something humans do inherently possess, this is simply a way to amplify what already exists. Intelligent people using AI generally seem to be more productive than when they don’t use it, and lazy or unintelligent people generally see cognitive decline, at least based on what I’ve heard online but I could be wrong on that.
So saying “this is where you get intelligence” is both false marketing and destructive to OpenAI as a company, since by all definitions, it isn’t true.
Your body also generates electricity and natural gas. Do you also get upset when energy companies claim to provide these services as a utility?
Does AI actually provide intelligence?
I suspect in a few years it's going to be strange to talk to him and other people there. It's already hard to explain to people that "Yeah, you can have a phone call and it can sound like your dad but it might just be a chat bot."
If I never have to hear anything about AI ever again it will be too soon
We do and we don't. If you would go out there and talk to a random person about elliptic curves and matrix multiplications and whether you hit a performance ceiling in a specific 2x2 multiplication thingy with Karatsuba and wnaf, they would not know half the words, but the lying and flattering machine will be able to hold the conversation.
The thing will not get all things right and bullshit me about DSTU4145 using normal basis, will lie about A being set to 1 for all standard curves, but it's definitely more intelligence that you can get from a taxi driver.
If it's not general superintelligence right there for five bucks a piece, I don't know what is
Is a calculator intelligent? I can 'talk' to it via pushing buttons.
Proof that we reached AGI 50 years ago
I mean, what's the point of this question even. The thing is either useful or fun or it's not. I personally think the whole AI is the work of devil tempting us, but some people would say that about pork sausages and Paulaner and I like my pork sausages with Paulaner.
Wikipedia has existed for decades...
Lol, they are literally just promising to make people fungible. Tale as old as time.
For OpenAI because they get a lot of money and and for the government because they can keep tabs on how people use LLMs to make sure they're not doing anything naughty.
EU created software like Mistral is no different
come on now, surely you're not serious.
I run local models. They're fun to play with. I get a bit of a dopamine hit when it works.
They're selling addiction. This is fucking disgusting.
I can’t.