I think the premise is mostly wrong, and it confuses functional programming with aesthetic programming.
amichail 16 hours ago [-]
Don't functional programmers want to make programming more difficult so that writing routine apps becomes more of an intellectual challenge and elegance of the code is a major part of that?
coldtea 16 hours ago [-]
No. I mean, this framing is not even wrong, it's merely absurd.
amichail 16 hours ago [-]
Maybe that's what most programmers using hybrid languages are secretly thinking.
moomoo11 15 hours ago [-]
no. if we use that framing of yours, fp aim is to write a solution that flows like a river while imperative solution is like rolling up a ball of various solutions and then throwing it at the problem.
amichail 15 hours ago [-]
The point is the details of the implementation don't matter that much anymore. It's just something for the AI to work out — much like assembly code generation is for compilers.
fwlr 10 hours ago [-]
“Upset” is not quite the right word - something more like “skeptical”, maybe? It does seem like AI programming tends to create the kind of problems that tend to push programmers toward functional programming.
austin-cheney 12 hours ago [-]
The topic paragraph and comments indicate you already have your own conclusion to this question. If you already have an answer to your own question then why ask in the first place? This sounds like cognitive conservatism in search of support.
Shashiwatchdog 16 hours ago [-]
I don't think functional programmers are necessarily more upset about AI being good at coding. If anything, FP tends to emphasize concepts that AI is already quite good at manipulating: composability, immutability, pure functions, and well-defined abstractions.
amichail 15 hours ago [-]
If AI is already good at this, then it will naturally lead programmers who may not be good in that respect in that direction anyway via the code that it generates.
In other words, being a human expert in writing high quality implementations is less important now.
dcminter 16 hours ago [-]
> since functional programmers pride themselves on the elegance of their code while programmers using hybrid languages just want to get the code working
Says who?
beanjuiceII 16 hours ago [-]
no not at all,AI works extremely well with this mode
amichail 16 hours ago [-]
That's not what I asked.
mbac32768 9 hours ago [-]
Yes some of us are having a hard time with it.
All of the years we've spent on immutable by default, strong types and dreaming about the lambda has to matter! The AI that just rips out thousands of lines an hour of imperative and weakly typed code just has to be leading organizations to ruin! You'll see!
We worked hard at honing our craft. It's still meaningful, damnit!
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In other words, being a human expert in writing high quality implementations is less important now.
Says who?
All of the years we've spent on immutable by default, strong types and dreaming about the lambda has to matter! The AI that just rips out thousands of lines an hour of imperative and weakly typed code just has to be leading organizations to ruin! You'll see!
We worked hard at honing our craft. It's still meaningful, damnit!