I'm using this for my mother's website (https://www.touchofglass.eu/), and my only complaint is that it assumes you version a website in a Git repository. You can work around it by uploading a tarball or something like that, but it is far less convenient than using sftp/rsync. But considering that we are far into the free 10GB a month and I only have to update it very infrequently, it seemed like the best solution.
adityamwagh 1 days ago [-]
Wow, your mom is so cool!
2b3a51 22 hours ago [-]
"Research has shown that being creative through art projects can help promote stress relief, increase self-esteem, help connect with others, and boost intrinsic motivation. So, participating in mindful art projects can open one's mind to more positive thoughts and offer alternative solutions to life problems."
And wise. Well done publishing the Web site which works without fuss in a calm way.
pkal 22 hours ago [-]
She is flattered :) Your comment and those of others here have "made her day", so thanks!
therealdrag0 1 days ago [-]
Btw highly recommend glass workshop like this. I did one and was surprised how easy it was to make a good looking coaster with no artistic talent.
rbarroso 1 days ago [-]
I thought the same! :)
olivierestsage 5 hours ago [-]
Exquisite work. I love Point of Departure.
datahack 1 days ago [-]
Love your mom’s work. Wow.
KellyCriterion 10 hours ago [-]
Extreeeemly capable person, your Mum! Just WOW!!!
bialpio 22 hours ago [-]
Do you mind sharing what (if anything) you're using to version that website? I'm wondering what folks use instead of git nowadays.
sgt 22 hours ago [-]
Back in the day people used to build a website without any versioning. Just make it and upload it. Make a change, upload it again.
flyingshelf 22 hours ago [-]
Then people realized why that's such a bad idea
pkal 22 hours ago [-]
Why should it be? In my experience it depends on the case, and in my case it seems like an absolute technological overkill to version the site and have statichost regularly pull from some repository, as I update it perhaps once a year.
21 hours ago [-]
odo1242 21 hours ago [-]
I mean, versioning is basically free from a technical / storage / time spent standpoint, and my experience says that if you don’t do it you likely will lose your code at some point
notRobot 19 hours ago [-]
To be fair you can have versions and backups even if you don't use a versioning tool like git. Good old _v2, _v3, _v4.
odo1242 18 hours ago [-]
Fair, but like, why??
embedding-shape 18 hours ago [-]
Simpler. Or you work/collaborate on projects with people who really shouldn't have to learn Git, even via a GUI.
I'm a programmer by trade and do plenty of versioning via _v1 and so on when working on music with others, we basically send .zip files over Telegram and append some label at the end. Not gonna ask these people to learn something when basic "have many copies" does the trick sufficiently good.
carlosjobim 19 hours ago [-]
If you're making static websites, there's no code to lose.
odo1242 18 hours ago [-]
Second order code loss: make a change, realize you screwed everything up, unable to revert
flyingshelf 18 hours ago [-]
Is that why even Google Docs has version control?
pkal 22 hours ago [-]
Not really, I just use Emacs' versioned backup files that are automatically generated. As I said, I don't have to update the site that often, so it is entirely sufficient. An advantage for me, besides not having to write Git commit messages, is that I also don't have to version images in Git, which I don't like doing.
WebDAV used to be a tire fire, is it not anymore? I'd probably prefer SFTP, it just works
greenavocado 1 days ago [-]
I like sftpgo
tgsovlerkhgsel 15 hours ago [-]
I would be in the market for Europe-based static hosting and am glad that more European services are popping up, but this has one massive drawback: Unpredictable cost (unless you manually set a limit with support, then it presumably changes into unpredictable availability). With everyone moaning about AI crawlers I have no idea how far 10 or 500 GB bandwidth go nowadays, and I don't want to need to know.
At all-inkl.com (no affiliation except being a happy customer) I pay something like 8 EUR to get "unlimited" bandwidth (I'm sure if my site caused a problem I'd hear about it, but I can be sure that there won't be surprise bills, and I know I don't have to worry about "background noise"), static hosting, dynamic and database (which I don't use) hosting, and 5 domains included which makes the net cost of the hosting nearly free.
po1nt 8 hours ago [-]
I don't like the "proudly made in USA" type marketing. It should not matter if the service is good.
hobo123 35 minutes ago [-]
I think local-first is a good heuristic in that it would avoid needless pushing of goods around the globe (or needless round-trips of lots of data around the globe).
Also, some people might like it if a product or service was made in US, Switzerland, Germany, Italy etc... for purely personal reasons (feelings).
po1nt 32 minutes ago [-]
It's the internet. We used to be proud that it's global. It used to be super cool to talk to people from other side of planet in real time.
jeremyjh 1 days ago [-]
If you'd like an EU hosted Git Forge to back it, Codefloe offers a free built-in integration with no restriction on personal or private repositories.
Why would i use codefloe and not a more reputable non-profit provider like codeberg/disroot/framagit?
It says it's community owned, but i only see one codefloe team member on the forums and a few people (like you). I didn't find any good community rules or pricing, any political statement about the mission, etc. The only thing i found deep in the comments is that it seems to be for people who don't want FLOSS? Also the pricing mentions mixing a non-profit and a for-profit for the best of both worlds, which as Mozilla has shown is a potentially tragic strategy.
To be clear, i'm in favor of more non-profit hosts. But from reading the site i'm not convinced this one is actually for-profit, what the community stands for, and whether i'm the target audience.
jeremyjh 20 hours ago [-]
Codeberg does not permit personal repos, it is strictly for open source project communities. Also, it is painfully slow if you are working in a repo of any size. Codefloe is professionally hosted on a robust platform - it could probably support about 10x the volume Codeberg has currently with good performance. I have not used the other options you mentioned but I've long admired what Framasoft is doing.
I'm not sure where you'd get the idea that Codefloe is for people who don't want FOSS. There are hundreds of open source repos. There are also a lot of personal projects, and probably some commercial ones as well.
What they don't want, is an ideology that restricts the types of projects hosted there. Its available for all software projects. Most of their user base are just using the service - and that is really the point. Similar to how most users on Lichess are there to play chess, not to talk about hosting chess servers.
They are owned by a commercial entity, devXY but they are not profit seeking. They need donations to cover costs but are willing to give that time to build up. There are some regular donors[1], but they are not yet covering all costs [2].
They publish a report every quarter where you can see usage figures.
The amount of Codeberg FUD one can encounter on HN is unreal. I'm starting to question whether there's an organized effort behind it.
Both personal and private repos are explicitly permitted in the Codeberg TOS:
> Private repositories[…] allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.
jasonvorhe 18 hours ago [-]
As if there wasn't a massive amount of nuance between "you may keep your dotfiles private but don't upload your photo library". If their rules read this arbitrary, I wouldn't trust them to host any of my stuff, especially considering that you always have to hope they don't change their rules any further.
Assume you did some local LLM stuff in June that worked with a 200MB set of various jpegs and you wanted to keep it private: Is this still legit in September 2026? I wouldn't rely on it.
embedding-shape 17 hours ago [-]
> , I wouldn't trust them to host any of my stuff, especially considering that you always have to hope they don't change their rules any further.
Yeah, I think this is a win-win for both parties.
You strike me as someone who would "ride along the lines of the terms of service" basically, and you'll see anything not explicitly forbidden as being allowed essentially.
While Codeberg is a project driven by humans, with human reactions to what's happening. If you're not comfortable with rules not being 100% defined, and requiring a humans value judgement to be had to figure out if the rule is broken or not, I don't think Codeberg is for you.
The rest of us, who are OK with humans making decisions rather than just going by what's written in rules, are fine with this, because we know our private repositories won't be deleted. And if they are, you'll be able to speak with a human to explain, and if your intention is fine and good, they'll be OK with it. But if you try to argue about some "That wasn't explicitly stated", then yeah, they'll probably get tired of you quickly.
Think your participating in your local user group vs some corporate/government forum, the rules will be enforced differently.
jeremyjh 17 hours ago [-]
> "ride along the terms of service"
By using AI to write code, like virtually everyone does? Tell me, what indication was there in their TOS, that this might be close to a line?
embedding-shape 16 hours ago [-]
Do X in whatever way you want, if you do so knowing it's against the terms of service, you're "riding along the line of the terms of service" for sure if you try to explain away how it is/isn't explicitly forbidden.
jeremyjh 15 hours ago [-]
Using AI was not against any terms of service at all three months ago.
embedding-shape 14 hours ago [-]
Ok, point being? Codeberg is a non-profit community that evolves and figures out where to move, all the time, this is the point of the association itself. Members discuss what to do, then a decision is made, then new rules eventually apply, this is how the project moves forward.
jeremyjh 13 hours ago [-]
You said people were “riding the line”. They weren’t. Codeberg made up a rule that excluded eligibility for projects they were already hosting. Projects that were not illegal, indecent or dangerous. I can’t think of another time something like that has happened. They can do it, sure, but many had hoped they could be an independent host for all FOSS as GitHub deteriorates. They have disappointed those hopes, and we will have to look to others - like Codefloe - to carry that hope forward.
FabCH 16 hours ago [-]
Why do you assume they will be ok with it?
They recently made some very ideological decisions…
embedding-shape 16 hours ago [-]
I didn't? Maybe I didn't explain properly, what did you understood I said/wrote?
FabCH 8 hours ago [-]
„ and if your intention is fine and good, they'll be OK with it“
That doesn’t work because „fine and good“ doesn’t mean the same thing to Codeberg voters/admins and to a large part of the hacke news population. Notably, Codeberg is morally opposed to AI.
jasonvorhe 9 hours ago [-]
What a weird take coming from a pro-Codeberg perspective considering that many their users I are proudly #actuallyautistic people who would prefer strict rules to follow in order to feel secure.
> The rest of us, who are OK with humans making decisions rather than just going by what's written in rules [...]
Better speak for yourself and not infer from your own views to others. With bad intention this could be interpreted as if I was incapable of dealing with human decisions when all I stated is that I mistrust people who rugpull me.
jeremyjh 17 hours ago [-]
> journal .. config file .. ideas or notes
So, not code for personal projects? Right? A private git repo with my own code, is not permitted.
More to the point of this thread - there is no specific affordance for a personal website.
cxr 12 hours ago [-]
> So, not code for personal projects? Right?
No, not right. Still wrong:
"Use it for your personal notes, your side project or any other[sic] you want to keep private".
(That's even ignoring that I was addressing the claim that you actually made, which is different from the one you're making now; you're moving the goalposts.)
6 hours ago [-]
jeremyjh 9 hours ago [-]
That language is not in the terms of service. The word "side" does not appear on that page.
The terms of service state:
> Private repositories are only allowed for things required for FLOSS projects, like storing secrets, team-internal discussions or hiding projects from the public until they're ready for usage and/or contribution. They are also allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.
The TOS Section 1:
> Our service is open for all projects covered by a licence for free and open source software, free and open source hardware, or free cultural works as defined by § 2 (1) 1.
So the "FUD" I am spreading is literally the headline of the legal terms of service. There is an organization behind the spread of this information, and it is Codeberg e.V.
cxr 6 hours ago [-]
You have made two concrete claims about Codeberg that are verifiably untrue:
"Codeberg does not permit personal repos"
"A private git repo with my own code, is not permitted"
Codeberg's policy explicitly permits personal repos, including private code repos. Both of your claims are false. There is no getting around this, no matter how much you try to move the goalposts or the other forms of conversational misdirection you're trying to pull off here.
jasonvorhe 22 hours ago [-]
Haven't used Codefloe but at least they're not restricting what projects you can host with them. I don't see any preachy neo-Luddite "don't use AI" or "no private repos pls" messaging on their site.
undefeated 17 hours ago [-]
I can kind of see it, but hetzner costs, what, 5€/m for your own server with 10TB traffic included? How is a 4€/m markup remotely justified for what amounts to setting up an apache server and pointing a domain at it? And cutting traffic to a twentieth?
l_h 16 hours ago [-]
Some (or maybe even most) people just want something that works, without dealing with the maintenance.
0xbadcafebee 49 minutes ago [-]
If motor oil for your car costs 20€, what justifies spending 40€ to have a shop change the oil for you?
reacharavindh 15 hours ago [-]
His has been my setup for many years. A simple cheap Hetzner VPS, setup to run Caddy printing a bunch of subdomains for all my side projects. If I wanted CDN, I’d look at bunnycdn. I haven’t researched a European DNS provider yet. For now it is Cloudflare.
I see the value for someone who doesn’t know or want to fuss with running their own VM in the cloud, but given the usage of LLM these days… But, one only needs a bit of education to take control into their hands.
axegon_ 16 hours ago [-]
You'd be surprised how many people pay hundreds of bucks per year for hosting wordpress sites that are completely static with 0 updates. Sites that can easily be hosted as static for free on codeberg (or github pages if you are a sociopath). The local peanut butter manufacturing facility with photos of their jars and no backend logic required type-of-sites.
reconnecting 1 days ago [-]
I like it. But not 100% EU. Status page sends data to Google, Doubleclick, etc (1)
"In Brief: statichost.eu does not collect or share any personal information or data. " (2)
I think you are picking on the product by sharing a (real) critique of the marketing website.
The product says "100% European static website hosting" it does not make any promise about the actual marketing website they have that will be privacy protected.
So yes, you are right they used in their marketing website maybe some trackers and even so based on the link you shared here they seem to use https://www.simpleanalytics.com/ which sounds okish than any other trackers and it might even be also EU hosted:
"We're a three-person team based in the Netherlands, building privacy-first analytics for the web"
flyingshelf 22 hours ago [-]
That's not a good excuse. If the whole selling point is that you're gluten free you can't have grain flour on your fliers.
gls2ro 16 hours ago [-]
Their _main_ selling point is that they are hosted in EU and also their analytics seems to be hosted in EU.
I did not read with very much attention their website but I think they are not saying they are gluten free and eating a whole wheat bread. But even so it is possible that a cook that produces gluten free bread to sell can eat a whole wheat bread. I see no problem with that.
I also don't think we need metaphors for this. It is clear for me that their USP is hosting in EU and the fact that on their marketing website uses https://www.simpleanalytics.com/data-collection does not contradict their product which is Hosting websites in EU.
What would contradict is hosting their marketing website on US.
Second point is: Yes, their status page should be hosted in other places and I could even understand if they want to host their status page in US or ASIA. I actually think that would be the right way to host their own status page.
goobatrooba 1 days ago [-]
That pixel seems to just gather standard data one might want to optimise the site display. I think display port size or http/s choice is hardly personal data.
Yes such info can be used to track people, but only if you have the database and means to - which a single small provider certainly doesn't. So unless you think this data is being sold for profiling I don't think that their claim is false.
reconnecting 1 days ago [-]
Perhaps I read it wrong, but to me this means "does not collect ... data". In fact, the site uses a third-party service, which obviously sends the IP address.
Finally, the `id` and `unique` string parameters look like something specifically designed to track people.
So it does not seem to collect IP. Of course it is sent to their servers but they publicly state they don't collect it.
mtlynch 1 days ago [-]
I've been looking for a new static host recently since Netlify raised prices and is terrible at preventing bot traffic. Here was my assessment of Netlify from the perspective of a small customer who just wants static hosting (and not build minutes).
Pros:
- Run by a single person, so customer service is responsive and comprehensive
- Focused mainly on static hosting without extra complexity
Cons:
- Run by a single person, so increased outage risks
- No support for MFA
- The upload process unconditionally uploads every file rather than an rsync-like sync of only the changed files, which is a pain for my large sites that only change incrementally
- Bot scraper protection is not included (they'll do it for an additional fee)
- Bundles together site builds and hosting, but I only want hosting
embedding-shape 17 hours ago [-]
So, just as a curiosity, why don't you create a $5/month VPS or something even cheaper, throw nginx/apache/caddy on there, make it fetch from a git repository once a minute or whatever, then call it a day? What does the service need to provide for it to be worth paying so much more for?
This $5/month VPS can effectively handle hosting 100s of static websites for you without breaking a sweat, unless you're doing something seriously wrong.
mtlynch 12 hours ago [-]
I've seriously considered it, but then the VPS is my single point of failure. If there's a new nginx/apache/caddy/linux 0day that could compromise my server, I have to care about it and update.
My websites typically serve 500 GB to 800 TB of bandwidth per month, and I run my businesses on static sites. It's not often that I get a big burst of visitors, but it happens a few times a year, and I wouldn't want to lose out on hundreds to thousands of dollars in sales because I was trying to save $20/mo on hosting.
thih9 1 days ago [-]
I’m a happy OVH user, their free static hosting (part of their paid domain service) is enough for my needs. I’ve been using that platform for more than 10 years now. At the same time I like that there are more alternatives.
ferngodfather 1 days ago [-]
My issue with OVH is the support is God awful and half French. Someone made a complaint about my server and their default stance was to nuke me from orbit and ask questions later.
Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire.
Much happier with Hetzner, even though it's more expensive.
wiether 22 hours ago [-]
I partially agree with the first part, but:
> Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire.
AFAIK they have a very limited number of DC built reusing shipping containers, most of them, including the ones built in the last ten years, are regular buildings built from scratch or repurposed.
AFAIK there have been ONE instance of a DC taking fire, and it wasn't built from containers.
Only SBG1 was built from containers, it partially burnt due to its proximity to SBG2, but its SBG2, which was not built from containers, that burnt down.
ferngodfather 14 hours ago [-]
No fire suppression and wooden ceilings?
Avamander 1 days ago [-]
I've had a few complaints, few auto-detections, managed to clear it all up quite easily thankfully.
However their IPv6 /128 allocation is horrendous. But I don't know anyone who does it all actually better.
gertop 13 hours ago [-]
They give you the full /64 even on vps or kimsufi(low end servers) it's just that the interface is configured with the ::1/128 by default in their cloud-init.
Their documentation about it is not consistent though, so the confusion is understandable.
gbxbxbcbd 24 hours ago [-]
Significantly too expensive for most users. I understand that they target agencies, but most users would prefer less and pay by site instead of paying 120 EUR / year for unlimited sited
Also the traffic cost is ridiculously high. Even AWS (which is often criticized for their high traffic cost) does not bill traffic below 10 TB (20 times higher) and then cost 0.1 EUR / 10 GB (10 times lower)
exitnode 23 hours ago [-]
I'm hosting my static site (https://rz01.org) there and am super happy with the free plan and the support I got from Eric. It's free, it's fast, it's in the EU.
m00dy 21 hours ago [-]
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Phelinofist 21 hours ago [-]
> we are going to back protectionism
Who started this, GeNuInElY cUrIoUs
dataking 1 days ago [-]
> Not just servers in Europe. A European company, European infrastructure, and European values
Needs to also run on European CPUs such as SiPearl Rhea1 :)
jonplackett 1 days ago [-]
Guys. Your top menu doesn’t even fit on mobile properly.
The spacing of every element on the site is different and inconsistent.
Everything about this site looks cheap and unconsidered.
Design is important and builds (or loses) trust.
It would take you at most an hour to make this site actually look nice.
kevin_thibedeau 1 days ago [-]
It's the Geocities design philosophy. Worked stupendously for lingscars.
rrr_oh_man 20 hours ago [-]
No. Inconsiderate is NOT over-the-top-loud
parasti 19 hours ago [-]
I just had to go check out your site with that comment. Nicely done! Was waiting for the physics simulation to either fully settle or explode, but really neither of those happened.
m00dy 21 hours ago [-]
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flyingshelf 22 hours ago [-]
Par for the course for EU businesses, I'm all too familiar with this.
Having said that, wrapping is a totally acceptable way to display menus rather than sticking everything in a burger.
jasonvorhe 22 hours ago [-]
> No AWS, no Cloudflare, no exceptions.
I'm so tired.
rrr_oh_man 20 hours ago [-]
You‘re not just tired, you’re exhausted.
dalmo3 19 hours ago [-]
The difference is real. And that matters.
fnwbr 22 hours ago [-]
and i'm so tired of the majority of the world centralizing and funneling their internet through either or both of these
rrr_oh_man 20 hours ago [-]
Especially if you know about the Cloudflare CIA tinfoil theory
archonis 1 days ago [-]
Looks interesting and serves a real need. However, pricing tiers seem a bit steep, especially for folks who don't need the build step to happen on the host.
Also, at least according to the docs, ssh cert based authentication and password based authentication, but no support for public key based authentication?
Gooblebrai 23 hours ago [-]
Out of curiosity, does a Ltd from the UK counts as EU nowadays after the brexit?
alexchamberlain 22 hours ago [-]
No? This company is based in Sweden, right?
That being said, the only reference to the EU is the domain itself - everything else says European, and the UK didn't move during Brexit.
woadwarrior01 19 hours ago [-]
The company is Swedish, but the website is hosted by datacamp in the UK. You can see it for yourself if you run whois on their domain.
No. No EU no EEA. Hard brexit. "European continent" has nothing to do with the .eu domain, which is restricted to EU citizens and businesses.
omnimus 22 hours ago [-]
The website says European not EU. UK is without much doubt in europe.
flyingshelf 22 hours ago [-]
> You can register and use a .eu domain if you are an EU or EEA citizen regardless of where you live, a resident in the European Union or European Economic Area, or a business or organization established within the EU/EEA.
UK is neither.
embedding-shape 17 hours ago [-]
The company itself is located in all of those essentially (Sweden), what seems to be located in UK is the "datacamp" thing.
monneyboi 1 days ago [-]
It sucks that we got to "European" being used as a main selling point.
itsyonas 21 hours ago [-]
However, I am not sure why European mass surveillance and imperialism are supposed to be any better than those of any other country. Somehow that never gets answered on sites like that.
pitchlatte 19 hours ago [-]
simply put, they aren’t the big bully. they don’t have the worlds strongest army and control of the most important currency to strongarm pretty much anyone who stands in the way.
i agree with your sentiment though.
gertop 13 hours ago [-]
None of what you say makes Europe better when it comes to the topic at hand, though?
If I have to choose US or EU to host my website, the size of their army, the strength of their currency, or their history as political bullies doesn't affect my blog or nextcloud instance.
What affects me is their privacy and data harvesting laws. EU is nominally better with the former, but the latter is eroding very fast and they're roughly the same.
woadwarrior01 19 hours ago [-]
Especially when it's hosted in the UK.
a34729t 1 days ago [-]
should come with a pack of cigarettes and a copy of SAS volumes 1-7
nonethewiser 1 days ago [-]
Wait, so Europeans dont want to use github pages? And would rather pay 9 euros/month?
brodo 24 hours ago [-]
> Wait, so Europeans dont want to use github pages?
Yes
> And would rather pay 9 euros/month?
No
veqq 1 days ago [-]
Wow, yeah. I need to start offering static hosting for like $.99 (although then micropayments become an issue...) As is, I host like 100 business' sites on my VPS and only recently surpassed 1% bandwidth.
toast0 1 days ago [-]
Probably better to do $10/year thsn $1/month... Maybe have a shorter first increment for people that don't want to risk $10...
chanux 1 days ago [-]
Bunny.net has a similar model and it's nice (Top up the account and minimum $1 per month).
This website also has a pricing model that is a bit discouraging and quite common in my experience. Nice free tier, thanks, but the first paid tier is a bit far out of reach or not worthy. My only guess is that they are forced to do it this way to fund the free tier.
pocksuppet 3 hours ago [-]
Paying to not be the product is nice. Some places make you pay and still make you the product, though, so watch out.
edukite 20 hours ago [-]
As a European I can only say I would rather pay 9€ monthly to European company than even receiving 5€ from USA
I self-host my application so I don't have need for such service but if I couldn't I would pay 9€
rrr_oh_man 20 hours ago [-]
Can you pay me 900€? If not I’ll send you 500€ from the US
edukite 16 hours ago [-]
Can I? Yes. Will I? No
Keep your 500€, your fellow citizens in average need it more than average European
rrr_oh_man 15 hours ago [-]
I wish you see a beautiful rainbow
edukite 14 hours ago [-]
I did and don't even need methamphetamine ;)
nosioptar 17 hours ago [-]
As an american, I'd rather pay than use github's free pages.
I'd go with sourcehut's pages @ €4 per month over statichost if I wanted to specifically go EU. (If not I'd go with nearlyfreespeech for $2ish per month.)
isodev 1 days ago [-]
For less than a cup of coffee yeah.
TeMPOraL 22 hours ago [-]
Problem with "less than a cup of coffee" has always been that those "cups of coffee" are usually per month, and they quickly add up.
Also hardly anyone drinks $9 coffees regularly.
m00dy 21 hours ago [-]
you have a valid point.
brnt 8 hours ago [-]
My cups of coffee are free (at work), so...
tasoeur 11 hours ago [-]
I’ve been using (and donating to) xmit.co that gives you all of this for free and has really good support.
foundart 5 hours ago [-]
Is it open source? I can't find any code links.
tiffanyh 1 days ago [-]
OT: is Cloudflare not offering Pages anymore?
I logged into CF dashboard the other day and was super confused because it appears to be replaced by Workers.
qaz_plm 1 days ago [-]
The legacy option still exists but they don’t make it obvious.
Computer > Workers & Pages > Create Application > under “Make something new” container there’s a link “Continue to Pages”
It's under Compute → Workers & Pages because Cloudflare has a confusing UI.
doublepg23 1 days ago [-]
UniFi and Cloudflare have interesting design philosophies where every time I load them up there's an entirely new experience waiting for me.
Hamuko 23 hours ago [-]
Just yesterday I was configuring my UniFi and being confused on where I can actually find everything in the new UI. I swear the firewall/policy UX changes every version.
globalnode 1 days ago [-]
its like a retail store where they force you to walk through the chips and chocolates to get to the fruit and veg... just in case you didnt know how yummy chips and chocolates are...
AnonC 13 hours ago [-]
What exactly is “builds minutes”? I looked at the FAQ and Docs but couldn’t find what it means. Are there static sites where the build process consumes, in total, 5000 minutes (in the paid plans)? How often are these sites being updated?
gertop 13 hours ago [-]
They support any build stack you want. You basically give them a docker compose file and you do what you want.
Knowing that, it seems important to have some limits.
FabCH 1 days ago [-]
The pricing is bananas. Why on earth is the bandwidth metered?
An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth.
?!
mtlynch 1 days ago [-]
> An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth.
statichost.eu is a CDN,[0] not a single static host. Your VPS is the single point of failure, so if that one system goes down, your site is offline.
With a VPS, you'd also have to roll your own atomic updates, which is not the hardest thing in the world, but it's also not trivial.
Compare it to static hosting pricing at Netlify, Firebase Hosting, and Vercel, and it's competitive, but you should expect to pay more for a service run by a small vendor who doesn't have the economies of scale or VC money that the bigger competitors have.
[0] They're an abstraction on top of Bunny, who provides the actual CDN, statichost assumes responsibility for providing the CDN regardless of underlying infrastructure.
FabCH 14 hours ago [-]
Can I just point out that either the vendor is small and therefor can’t actually offer the N+2 reliability you list as a weakness of self-hosting, or they are large enough for N+2 but then stop being small.
My tiny website doesn’t need a CDN and doesn’t need atomic updates.
mtlynch 8 hours ago [-]
> Can I just point out that either the vendor is small and therefor can’t actually offer the N+2 reliability you list as a weakness of self-hosting, or they are large enough for N+2 but then stop being small.
I don't understand what you mean. surge.sh and statichost.eu are both small vendors that offer redundancy. Are you saying they're not really small or not really offering N+2 reliability?
FabCH 8 hours ago [-]
From what they list on the website, they don’t offer N+2 reliability / they are not present in sufficient geos to actually act as a CDN.
mtlynch 7 hours ago [-]
Which vendor are you talking about?
As I mentioned upthread, statichost.eu uses Bunny under the covers, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that Bunny isn't a CDN.
surge.sh has servers in 10 regions.[0]
It's not trivial to run a static host with redundancy in multiple regions, but it's also not so absurdly complex that only large vendors can achieve it.
Netlify and vercel have a generous free tier, I never paid a dime. What you might eventually pay for in those services is the exceptional DX, which this amateurish service will never get close to.
All this to say that 9€/month is way too expensive.
mtlynch 17 hours ago [-]
What's the price that you expect to pay to a service run by a single person that has to keep your website available 24/7?
I get frustrated that people seem pretty aware of the enshittification and centralization of large services, but when an indie vendor pops up that can fill a niche, people expect it to have all the bells and whistles of a billion dollar company and also give everything away for free.
If you have a just for fun website, then yeah, hop around the free tiers of whatever hosting service. If you're running any kind of online business, the difference between free and 9€/month for web hosting is a rounding error to pretty much any other business expenses you have.
Also, keep in mind that on the 9€/month plan, that's the max you pay. With Vercel, Netlify, Firebase, etc., if you get hit with a bot attack, they come after you for $100k+ and you have to beg on social media for them to call off the collectors.[0]
That's a lie. 9€ is not the max you pay, it's metered and extra traffic costs extra. So what you said about others can just as well apply here.
What I see is some homemade service that costs $125/year and has little to show for it. There's nothing about what it offers on the website, the homepage has a handful of words. It claims "CDN" but doesn't say anything about what the exit points are. All I see is two "datacenters" in Northern Europe on the status page.
Heck even the CDN is in "private beta" so what are we paying for exactly? Lots of services in Europe are already available for 2-5€/month for the current level of service.
What I see is a 9€ ask for a list of promises. That's too much.
mtlynch 7 hours ago [-]
> That's a lie. 9€ is not the max you pay, it's metered and extra traffic costs extra. So what you said about others can just as well apply here.
From the pricing FAQ[0]:
> Can I set a spending limit for overages?
> Yes. Please contact support in order to set up your spending limit.
None of the others support spending limits last I checked.
I checked yesterday because they were about to close my account and found Scaleway is a bit expensive.
Just checked again and found a DEV configuration for ~€6.55 and STARDUST for ~€0.43 which is interesting.
dddw 1 days ago [-]
Where? At scalaway?
chanux 18 hours ago [-]
Yessir
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p-e-w 1 days ago [-]
But it’s in the EU! Which is obviously extremely important for static hosting.
toyg 21 hours ago [-]
It depends what that static content is. If it advocates for BDS in universities, for example...
FabCH 16 hours ago [-]
So is Scaleway…
squarefoot 1 days ago [-]
How does it compare to neocities.org, which is sadly not EU?
kyledrake 1 days ago [-]
It seems to be more focused on business static hosting, which Neocities definitely is not. There's at least a dozen business static web hosting solutions out there and we're happy to share space with them.
Aside from that, it's claiming to be based in Europe instead of the US and proposing that as the value proposition. We have servers all over the world, including in Europe, but we're required to be in the US for the pretty simple reason that we live here, and nobody in Europe has offered me citizenship yet (by all means!)
I've explored potentially operating out of other countries when crazy internet regulations come up but in practice, crazy internet regulations is currently, unfortunately, a bi-partisan, multi-country phenomenon, and I wouldn't bank on being "based in Europe" to solve this.
I also wouldn't assume that being based in Europe will prevent the US from enforcing a law on a platform either. US companies still have to adhere to European internet laws if they want to operate there. If we used cookies for anything except session login, we would need to do a cookie pop-up like most other sites do.
It might help me to understand the concern if I was given a specific internet law. If your concern is age check IDing for example, how are you more concerned about the US states than the entire country of France, which is attempting to do the same thing?
Moru 1 days ago [-]
The current non-US movement is more based on the emerging government type in the USA, has nothing to do with the privacy laws.
There are apps you use to scan products in the store to make sure they have nothing to do with USA.
nom 1 days ago [-]
wtf is a build minute and why is it metered
pitchlatte 19 hours ago [-]
i was also extremely confused by this
therouwboat 18 hours ago [-]
I tried this few weeks ago and there was no authentication on rebuild trigger, so anyone who knows your site url can start build and deploy.
I don't know if things have improved since then.
trizoza 19 hours ago [-]
The name though, took me 5 reads to finally see "static host" there
sparkling 1 days ago [-]
The 9€/mo price point seems weird, considering its "just" static hosting and i can get a decently sized VPS for that money (yes, also from a EU host).
Avamander 1 days ago [-]
You can also get a fully-featured shared web hosting package plus email for that price. 9€/mo is wack.
ferngodfather 1 days ago [-]
You should see the pricing of Azure web apps lol
palata 1 days ago [-]
Does it automatically generate a TLS certificate? I didn't find documentation about that, just that you can setup your own domain.
Seems really cool!
isodev 1 days ago [-]
Yes, it does generate the certificate
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Muromec 1 days ago [-]
My hosting is rv2 in my meterkast from by cf which costs 0 eurohryvnias.
jpoesen 24 hours ago [-]
Are you ok? I think you might be having a stroke.
Muromec 12 hours ago [-]
It's tough to be monolingual -- everything is so strange and scary.
sajithdilshan 1 days ago [-]
Doesn’t say anything about how much of storage is offered for any plan.
letmevoteplease 1 days ago [-]
If they stated the storage limits explicitly, people would just go right up to the edge. Better to leave it undefined and assess compliance afterward.
gbxbxbcbd 24 hours ago [-]
I assume no storage limits but bandwidth limits
amelius 1 days ago [-]
Looked cool at first, but that FreeSewing logo scared me away.
simonjgreen 1 days ago [-]
That’s a shame, because FreeSewing is a fascinating and pretty awesome project! If you know someone in to the textile crafts, you may find this changes their world if they don’t already know of it.
jonatanholmgren 12 hours ago [-]
This looks like a Bunny CDN host?
idorube 1 days ago [-]
hold on there, nobody is mentioning AI here? :-D
nosioptar 1 days ago [-]
Since you asked...
I wonder if they have some form of clanker protection. I'd hate to get hit by the filthy buggers and end up with a huge bill.
ruuda 24 hours ago [-]
Their certificate is issued by Let's Encrypt ...
exitnode 24 hours ago [-]
Why is that worth mentioning?
ruuda 19 hours ago [-]
Because it looks like they are trying to appeal to people interested in European digital autonomy, but ISRG, the organization behind Let's Encrypt, is based in the US and has to comply with US sanctions.
Come on, even the claim is sloppified!
It's not this, it's that!
Anoian 19 hours ago [-]
As an european I approve of the claim being "Its not this, its that", because for once its an actual good use of it, as many things claim to be european when in actuality they are american companies, hosting their stuff in an aws/azure european data region, so not really european at all.
Oh-Kay_Labs 10 hours ago [-]
"European values" We know what that means.. Slavery of one sort or another(no joke).
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Aldipower 1 days ago [-]
No /cgi-bin/ directory? I am disappointed. ;-) Greetz to Sweden!
0xbadcafebee 1 days ago [-]
I would love a static hoster with nothing but CGI and versioned snapshots
g-b-r 1 days ago [-]
Before any other consideration, I love love LOVE the record-short terms.
I'll bookmark it just for that.
chrisjj 1 days ago [-]
> 100 build minutes
Er, what? A static site has no build on server.
rrr_oh_man 1 days ago [-]
A static site could be built from source on the server
Hamuko 1 days ago [-]
Many static sites are made using a static site generator, which turns input files into a static site in a build phase.
rixed 1 days ago [-]
I believe the important part was "on the server".
elondaits 19 hours ago [-]
My static sites are built on the server (Github pages or Cloudflare Pages). They rebuild each time there are new commit on the repo, and that way I don’t need to version built artifacts.
I built locally for many many years and I’m much happier with this model since the commit log is a much better reflection of what changed and there are no inconsistencies as whenever you’d commit source and built artifacts that don’t match.
… It demands some extra care in terms of making sure the server can pull the dependencies and run the build scripts, but that also means my colleagues (or me in the future recovering the project from the repo) would be able to build with what was commited and nothing more… which is a requirement in my case.
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embedding-shape 18 hours ago [-]
Huh, why not 100%? Both Germany and United Kingdom is in Europe, last time I checked. Bunny is located Slovenia as well, also Europe.
rrr_oh_man 16 hours ago [-]
.eu just implies something different.
Imagine subscribing to patriotcrm.us (Tagline: "100% American made & hosted") and then finding out its servers are located in Mexico.
embedding-shape 16 hours ago [-]
.eu implies (well, requires) the business entity itself is located within the EU/EEA, it doesn't imply that all infrastructure is hosted within the EU, I'm not sure where you'd get that from.
Just like .us doesn't imply everything is 100% hosted within the US, that the CDN has servers in Mexico too is fine, as long as the business entity itself is actually in the US.
rrr_oh_man 15 hours ago [-]
You’re right!
tuwtuwtuwtuw 18 hours ago [-]
Many people can't tell EU and Europe apart.
embedding-shape 17 hours ago [-]
There is something special about the combination of people posting something thinking it's some gotcha, then they completely misunderstood both what the thing is, and what they're trying to point out, hilarious.
rrr_oh_man 16 hours ago [-]
Enlighten everyone, me included, please?
embedding-shape 16 hours ago [-]
About the differences between the EU and Europe? Didn't someone already explain the difference to you in the past or somewhere else? Look at Wikipedia otherwise.
rrr_oh_man 12 hours ago [-]
Good job picking a fight! You’re the best!
dlahoda 1 days ago [-]
...European values, and requires eu tax number, eu payment card only, eu sanctions, eu censorship, eu prices(high), and residence permit of course.
Immediately blocked for half year until they think if you can have that site.
throwfaraway135 20 hours ago [-]
I don't trust anything governed by the EU government, they will censor/take down anything that's even mildly inconvenient for them.
utopiah 20 hours ago [-]
Which government do you trust more then?
throwfaraway135 17 hours ago [-]
In our current age none of them.
petcat 1 days ago [-]
Europe enters the static file hosting space.
Meanwhile, Europe's most promising aerospace company just left for USA.
Nope, Airbus are still safely headquartered in Netherlands.
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The holding framework is in The Netherlands but HQ is still in France.
Hamuko 1 days ago [-]
"Just" and "Published April 30, 2025" seem a bit contradictory.
a3w 1 days ago [-]
Swedish company, nice.
But "European values" seems to be a non-statement.
Doesn't European also possibly mean St. Petersburg, Malta, Cyprus, Istanbul, Greenland, or Switzerland? I.e. being not the same as EU hosting?
spragl 23 hours ago [-]
Greenland is not part of Europe. But they are part of "Rigsfællesskabet" (The Kingdom of Denmark). So part of Denmark but with a high degree of autonomy.
Regarding "European values", I think they are just Western values but with a twist away from the US version. In my layman view, that means: Europe values citizen privacy more, US values citizen freedoms more, Europe values environment more, US values businesses more.
Until recently I would have said Europe values diplomacy more, while US values military power more. But now I dont know about that.
bartekpacia 1 days ago [-]
It’s obvious and implied that “European” here means “EU”, especially when talking about values.
Low effort comment.
jasonvorhe 22 hours ago [-]
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Rendered at 06:31:05 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
And wise. Well done publishing the Web site which works without fuss in a calm way.
I'm a programmer by trade and do plenty of versioning via _v1 and so on when working on music with others, we basically send .zip files over Telegram and append some label at the end. Not gonna ask these people to learn something when basic "have many copies" does the trick sufficiently good.
doesn't seem like a good idea
At all-inkl.com (no affiliation except being a happy customer) I pay something like 8 EUR to get "unlimited" bandwidth (I'm sure if my site caused a problem I'd hear about it, but I can be sure that there won't be surprise bills, and I know I don't have to worry about "background noise"), static hosting, dynamic and database (which I don't use) hosting, and 5 domains included which makes the net cost of the hosting nearly free.
Also, some people might like it if a product or service was made in US, Switzerland, Germany, Italy etc... for purely personal reasons (feelings).
https://docs.codefloe.com/pages/
It says it's community owned, but i only see one codefloe team member on the forums and a few people (like you). I didn't find any good community rules or pricing, any political statement about the mission, etc. The only thing i found deep in the comments is that it seems to be for people who don't want FLOSS? Also the pricing mentions mixing a non-profit and a for-profit for the best of both worlds, which as Mozilla has shown is a potentially tragic strategy.
To be clear, i'm in favor of more non-profit hosts. But from reading the site i'm not convinced this one is actually for-profit, what the community stands for, and whether i'm the target audience.
I'm not sure where you'd get the idea that Codefloe is for people who don't want FOSS. There are hundreds of open source repos. There are also a lot of personal projects, and probably some commercial ones as well.
What they don't want, is an ideology that restricts the types of projects hosted there. Its available for all software projects. Most of their user base are just using the service - and that is really the point. Similar to how most users on Lichess are there to play chess, not to talk about hosting chess servers.
They are owned by a commercial entity, devXY but they are not profit seeking. They need donations to cover costs but are willing to give that time to build up. There are some regular donors[1], but they are not yet covering all costs [2].
They publish a report every quarter where you can see usage figures.
https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo...
They also publish detailed cost analytics and donations:
[2] https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo...
[1] https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/
Both personal and private repos are explicitly permitted in the Codeberg TOS:
> Private repositories[…] allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.
Assume you did some local LLM stuff in June that worked with a 200MB set of various jpegs and you wanted to keep it private: Is this still legit in September 2026? I wouldn't rely on it.
Yeah, I think this is a win-win for both parties.
You strike me as someone who would "ride along the lines of the terms of service" basically, and you'll see anything not explicitly forbidden as being allowed essentially.
While Codeberg is a project driven by humans, with human reactions to what's happening. If you're not comfortable with rules not being 100% defined, and requiring a humans value judgement to be had to figure out if the rule is broken or not, I don't think Codeberg is for you.
The rest of us, who are OK with humans making decisions rather than just going by what's written in rules, are fine with this, because we know our private repositories won't be deleted. And if they are, you'll be able to speak with a human to explain, and if your intention is fine and good, they'll be OK with it. But if you try to argue about some "That wasn't explicitly stated", then yeah, they'll probably get tired of you quickly.
Think your participating in your local user group vs some corporate/government forum, the rules will be enforced differently.
By using AI to write code, like virtually everyone does? Tell me, what indication was there in their TOS, that this might be close to a line?
They recently made some very ideological decisions…
That doesn’t work because „fine and good“ doesn’t mean the same thing to Codeberg voters/admins and to a large part of the hacke news population. Notably, Codeberg is morally opposed to AI.
> The rest of us, who are OK with humans making decisions rather than just going by what's written in rules [...]
Better speak for yourself and not infer from your own views to others. With bad intention this could be interpreted as if I was incapable of dealing with human decisions when all I stated is that I mistrust people who rugpull me.
So, not code for personal projects? Right? A private git repo with my own code, is not permitted.
More to the point of this thread - there is no specific affordance for a personal website.
No, not right. Still wrong:
"Use it for your personal notes, your side project or any other[sic] you want to keep private".
(That's even ignoring that I was addressing the claim that you actually made, which is different from the one you're making now; you're moving the goalposts.)
The terms of service state:
> Private repositories are only allowed for things required for FLOSS projects, like storing secrets, team-internal discussions or hiding projects from the public until they're ready for usage and/or contribution. They are also allowed for really small & personal stuff like your journal, config files, ideas or notes, but explicitly not as a personal cloud or media storage.
The TOS Section 1:
> Our service is open for all projects covered by a licence for free and open source software, free and open source hardware, or free cultural works as defined by § 2 (1) 1.
So the "FUD" I am spreading is literally the headline of the legal terms of service. There is an organization behind the spread of this information, and it is Codeberg e.V.
"Codeberg does not permit personal repos"
"A private git repo with my own code, is not permitted"
Codeberg's policy explicitly permits personal repos, including private code repos. Both of your claims are false. There is no getting around this, no matter how much you try to move the goalposts or the other forms of conversational misdirection you're trying to pull off here.
I see the value for someone who doesn’t know or want to fuss with running their own VM in the cloud, but given the usage of LLM these days… But, one only needs a bit of education to take control into their hands.
"In Brief: statichost.eu does not collect or share any personal information or data. " (2)
Every page contains a hidden 1px pixel img that collects 15+ parameters: https://queue.simpleanalyticscdn.com/simple.gif?version=cdn_......
1. https://status.statichost.eu
2. https://www.statichost.eu/privacy/
The product says "100% European static website hosting" it does not make any promise about the actual marketing website they have that will be privacy protected.
So yes, you are right they used in their marketing website maybe some trackers and even so based on the link you shared here they seem to use https://www.simpleanalytics.com/ which sounds okish than any other trackers and it might even be also EU hosted: "We're a three-person team based in the Netherlands, building privacy-first analytics for the web"
I did not read with very much attention their website but I think they are not saying they are gluten free and eating a whole wheat bread. But even so it is possible that a cook that produces gluten free bread to sell can eat a whole wheat bread. I see no problem with that.
I also don't think we need metaphors for this. It is clear for me that their USP is hosting in EU and the fact that on their marketing website uses https://www.simpleanalytics.com/data-collection does not contradict their product which is Hosting websites in EU.
What would contradict is hosting their marketing website on US.
Second point is: Yes, their status page should be hosted in other places and I could even understand if they want to host their status page in US or ASIA. I actually think that would be the right way to host their own status page.
Yes such info can be used to track people, but only if you have the database and means to - which a single small provider certainly doesn't. So unless you think this data is being sold for profiling I don't think that their claim is false.
Finally, the `id` and `unique` string parameters look like something specifically designed to track people.
So it does not seem to collect IP. Of course it is sent to their servers but they publicly state they don't collect it.
Pros:
- Run by a single person, so customer service is responsive and comprehensive
- Focused mainly on static hosting without extra complexity
Cons:
- Run by a single person, so increased outage risks
- No support for MFA
- The upload process unconditionally uploads every file rather than an rsync-like sync of only the changed files, which is a pain for my large sites that only change incrementally
- Bot scraper protection is not included (they'll do it for an additional fee)
- Bundles together site builds and hosting, but I only want hosting
This $5/month VPS can effectively handle hosting 100s of static websites for you without breaking a sweat, unless you're doing something seriously wrong.
My websites typically serve 500 GB to 800 TB of bandwidth per month, and I run my businesses on static sites. It's not often that I get a big burst of visitors, but it happens a few times a year, and I wouldn't want to lose out on hundreds to thousands of dollars in sales because I was trying to save $20/mo on hosting.
Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire.
Much happier with Hetzner, even though it's more expensive.
AFAIK there have been ONE instance of a DC taking fire, and it wasn't built from containers.
https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/incendie-sur-un-site-ovh...
And, did you look at the photos you linked lol.
Particularly this one: https://lafibre.info/images/ovh/202202_incendie_ovh_strasbou...
Only SBG1 was built from containers, it partially burnt due to its proximity to SBG2, but its SBG2, which was not built from containers, that burnt down.
However their IPv6 /128 allocation is horrendous. But I don't know anyone who does it all actually better.
Their documentation about it is not consistent though, so the confusion is understandable.
Also the traffic cost is ridiculously high. Even AWS (which is often criticized for their high traffic cost) does not bill traffic below 10 TB (20 times higher) and then cost 0.1 EUR / 10 GB (10 times lower)
Who started this, GeNuInElY cUrIoUs
Needs to also run on European CPUs such as SiPearl Rhea1 :)
The spacing of every element on the site is different and inconsistent.
Everything about this site looks cheap and unconsidered.
Design is important and builds (or loses) trust.
It would take you at most an hour to make this site actually look nice.
Having said that, wrapping is a totally acceptable way to display menus rather than sticking everything in a burger.
I'm so tired.
Also, at least according to the docs, ssh cert based authentication and password based authentication, but no support for public key based authentication?
That being said, the only reference to the EU is the domain itself - everything else says European, and the UK didn't move during Brexit.
https://datacamp.co.uk
UK is neither.
i agree with your sentiment though.
If I have to choose US or EU to host my website, the size of their army, the strength of their currency, or their history as political bullies doesn't affect my blog or nextcloud instance.
What affects me is their privacy and data harvesting laws. EU is nominally better with the former, but the latter is eroding very fast and they're roughly the same.
Yes
> And would rather pay 9 euros/month?
No
This website also has a pricing model that is a bit discouraging and quite common in my experience. Nice free tier, thanks, but the first paid tier is a bit far out of reach or not worthy. My only guess is that they are forced to do it this way to fund the free tier.
I self-host my application so I don't have need for such service but if I couldn't I would pay 9€
Keep your 500€, your fellow citizens in average need it more than average European
I'd go with sourcehut's pages @ €4 per month over statichost if I wanted to specifically go EU. (If not I'd go with nearlyfreespeech for $2ish per month.)
Also hardly anyone drinks $9 coffees regularly.
I logged into CF dashboard the other day and was super confused because it appears to be replaced by Workers.
Computer > Workers & Pages > Create Application > under “Make something new” container there’s a link “Continue to Pages”
https://blog.cloudflare.com/full-stack-development-on-cloudf...
Stuff like Astro comes with Workers support.
They also have https://www.cloudflare.com/drop/
Knowing that, it seems important to have some limits.
An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth.
?!
statichost.eu is a CDN,[0] not a single static host. Your VPS is the single point of failure, so if that one system goes down, your site is offline.
With a VPS, you'd also have to roll your own atomic updates, which is not the hardest thing in the world, but it's also not trivial.
Compare it to static hosting pricing at Netlify, Firebase Hosting, and Vercel, and it's competitive, but you should expect to pay more for a service run by a small vendor who doesn't have the economies of scale or VC money that the bigger competitors have.
[0] They're an abstraction on top of Bunny, who provides the actual CDN, statichost assumes responsibility for providing the CDN regardless of underlying infrastructure.
My tiny website doesn’t need a CDN and doesn’t need atomic updates.
I don't understand what you mean. surge.sh and statichost.eu are both small vendors that offer redundancy. Are you saying they're not really small or not really offering N+2 reliability?
As I mentioned upthread, statichost.eu uses Bunny under the covers, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that Bunny isn't a CDN.
surge.sh has servers in 10 regions.[0]
It's not trivial to run a static host with redundancy in multiple regions, but it's also not so absurdly complex that only large vendors can achieve it.
[0] https://surge.sh/network
All this to say that 9€/month is way too expensive.
I get frustrated that people seem pretty aware of the enshittification and centralization of large services, but when an indie vendor pops up that can fill a niche, people expect it to have all the bells and whistles of a billion dollar company and also give everything away for free.
If you have a just for fun website, then yeah, hop around the free tiers of whatever hosting service. If you're running any kind of online business, the difference between free and 9€/month for web hosting is a rounding error to pretty much any other business expenses you have.
Also, keep in mind that on the 9€/month plan, that's the max you pay. With Vercel, Netlify, Firebase, etc., if you get hit with a bot attack, they come after you for $100k+ and you have to beg on social media for them to call off the collectors.[0]
[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1b14bty/netlify_jus...
What I see is some homemade service that costs $125/year and has little to show for it. There's nothing about what it offers on the website, the homepage has a handful of words. It claims "CDN" but doesn't say anything about what the exit points are. All I see is two "datacenters" in Northern Europe on the status page.
Heck even the CDN is in "private beta" so what are we paying for exactly? Lots of services in Europe are already available for 2-5€/month for the current level of service.
What I see is a 9€ ask for a list of promises. That's too much.
From the pricing FAQ[0]:
> Can I set a spending limit for overages?
> Yes. Please contact support in order to set up your spending limit.
None of the others support spending limits last I checked.
[0] https://www.statichost.eu/pricing/
Yikes
Just checked again and found a DEV configuration for ~€6.55 and STARDUST for ~€0.43 which is interesting.
Aside from that, it's claiming to be based in Europe instead of the US and proposing that as the value proposition. We have servers all over the world, including in Europe, but we're required to be in the US for the pretty simple reason that we live here, and nobody in Europe has offered me citizenship yet (by all means!)
I've explored potentially operating out of other countries when crazy internet regulations come up but in practice, crazy internet regulations is currently, unfortunately, a bi-partisan, multi-country phenomenon, and I wouldn't bank on being "based in Europe" to solve this.
I also wouldn't assume that being based in Europe will prevent the US from enforcing a law on a platform either. US companies still have to adhere to European internet laws if they want to operate there. If we used cookies for anything except session login, we would need to do a cookie pop-up like most other sites do.
It might help me to understand the concern if I was given a specific internet law. If your concern is age check IDing for example, how are you more concerned about the US states than the entire country of France, which is attempting to do the same thing?
There are apps you use to scan products in the store to make sure they have nothing to do with USA.
Seems really cool!
I wonder if they have some form of clanker protection. I'd hate to get hit by the filthy buggers and end up with a huge bill.
https://eualternative.eu/
Come on, even the claim is sloppified! It's not this, it's that!
I'll bookmark it just for that.
Er, what? A static site has no build on server.
I built locally for many many years and I’m much happier with this model since the commit log is a much better reflection of what changed and there are no inconsistencies as whenever you’d commit source and built artifacts that don’t match.
… It demands some extra care in terms of making sure the server can pull the dependencies and run the build scripts, but that also means my colleagues (or me in the future recovering the project from the repo) would be able to build with what was commited and nothing more… which is a requirement in my case.
Imagine subscribing to patriotcrm.us (Tagline: "100% American made & hosted") and then finding out its servers are located in Mexico.
Just like .us doesn't imply everything is 100% hosted within the US, that the CDN has servers in Mexico too is fine, as long as the business entity itself is actually in the US.
Immediately blocked for half year until they think if you can have that site.
Meanwhile, Europe's most promising aerospace company just left for USA.
https://www.heartaerospace.com/newsroom/heart-aerospace-relo...
But "European values" seems to be a non-statement.
Doesn't European also possibly mean St. Petersburg, Malta, Cyprus, Istanbul, Greenland, or Switzerland? I.e. being not the same as EU hosting?
Regarding "European values", I think they are just Western values but with a twist away from the US version. In my layman view, that means: Europe values citizen privacy more, US values citizen freedoms more, Europe values environment more, US values businesses more.
Until recently I would have said Europe values diplomacy more, while US values military power more. But now I dont know about that.
Low effort comment.