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Show HN: Nari Qwen3-TTS and Qwen3-ASR – High accuracy, low latency and cost (narilabs.com)
karimf 6 hours ago [-]
This is awesome. Thanks for pushing the audio pareto frontier forward.

Probably far fetched for now, but I think the next big evolution is building the pareto/much cheaper alternative to GPT-Live-1.

The STT/TTS market is quite saturated, while today, there's almost no cheap/open source alternative to GPT-Live-1.

toebee 4 hours ago [-]
agreed. we've been doing some work around NVIDIA personaplex 7b, but its quality is quite far from GPT-Live-1, esp in terms of intelligence. Once a good OSS model is out, we'll be sure to be the first to serve it cheaply to the masses :)
6879346626 4 hours ago [-]
Is this really something people want? Honestly you can properly lower the pricing at least by 50%+.

Getting something conversationally better has been done, the tool calling will likely be worse though.

The infrastructure for real time is really annoying though.

asaiacai 15 hours ago [-]
This is really cool work! I'm curious like what do you see as the biggest lever for speeding up TTS models or from a technical perspective that this was a promising direction in the first place to push on. If I were to guess, some distillation but I'm certain there are probably TTS model aware architectural changes that just make inference wayyyy faster?
toebee 9 hours ago [-]
thanks for the interest! we have a blog post on exactly how we did it: https://narilabs.com/blog/qwen3-tts-speed-cost-frontier/
apimade 7 hours ago [-]
https://apimade.com/audio-compare.html

Added it to my blind TTS model comparison leaderboard. So far Darwin TTS is the open model leading the pack, ElevenLabs is at the lead.

barney54 7 hours ago [-]
Is Darwin TTS from Fish Audio? It wasn't clear when I searched for it.
apimade 6 hours ago [-]
toebee 4 hours ago [-]
awesome! will look into Darwin TTS. super interesting
konart 11 hours ago [-]
All TTS generations are too fast. It's almost I'm listening to a podcast on 1.25-1.5x speed.
toebee 9 hours ago [-]
thanks for the feedback! will investigate and get it fixed
rahimnathwani 14 hours ago [-]
For some reason it switched voices half way through a 33 second clip.

For OP the clip name is nari-nina-01a0a12f-980a-765e-8029-fa56bd23210d.wav

toebee 9 hours ago [-]
hey, thanks for letting us know! will look into the issue and see what went wrong.
iharnoor 13 hours ago [-]
By next month the competition for TTS will be even more!

Voice models are not winner take all market unlike LLM APIs

Coming here as Developer Relations at AssemblyAI

yoloakki 14 hours ago [-]
You definitely need independent evals by Datapoint AI or someone who can verify your claims about TTS quality
mowmiatlas 14 hours ago [-]
Cool, I’ve released something to the same beat of the dr this weekend as well

https://github.com/loudreader/loudkit

I think real time natural tts should be possible everywhere soon

toebee 9 hours ago [-]
very cool. will try for local use!
meatmanek 15 hours ago [-]
> and Qwen3-ASR

Is the ASR inference engine open source as well?

nshm 13 hours ago [-]
Yes, and it is very good one. Leading position on private leaderboard on HF: https://huggingface.co/spaces/hf-audio/open_asr_leaderboard
meatmanek 10 hours ago [-]
I meant the Nari inference engine for Qwen3-ASR. I'm aware that Qwen3-ASR is open source, but I don't see a repo under https://github.com/nari-labs for nari-qwen3-asr or similar.

The Huggingface link on https://narilabs.com/product/stt/ links to https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-ASR-1.7B , not anything under https://huggingface.co/nari-labs

toebee 9 hours ago [-]
the qwen3-asr inference repo is not OSSed as of now. we're planning to write a paper or tech report on it as it contains some general techniques for ASR inference.
kshmir 9 hours ago [-]
how do I follow you? I have a small 5090 doing inference all the time and I barely use tts but a lot of asr, mostly whisper, I ported your tech report for tts and implemented some improvements on my whisper inference based on your tech report as well!

would love to talk sometime!

verdverm 13 hours ago [-]
They have a number of demos and examples in their HF space

https://huggingface.co/Qwen/spaces

I saw a local-ai demo (something + gemma), where the person used ASR to get text and gemma to clean it up (like turning "question mark" into a literal "?", bullet points another one). The presenter also showed a gemma only option, that did both in one go, but had a higher WER on average, and even though the formatting statements were handled without a multi-stage pipeline, they preferred the multi-stage overall

DylanMerigaud 13 hours ago [-]
Rooting for you on this one.
toebee 4 hours ago [-]
thank you Dylan!
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ipsum2 15 hours ago [-]
If you're going to announce a TTS model, service, or whatever, you really need demos.
toebee 9 hours ago [-]
hey sorry about that, you can here a few of our voices here: https://narilabs.com/product/qwen3-tts/
emayljames 3 hours ago [-]
The horizontal moving elements of examples become stuck and unable to be scolled once one of them is played. I'm using Vivaldi (chrome based) on Android
bilaly 11 hours ago [-]
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